How much impact did the lack of a heavyweight star helped Floyd Mayweather Jr?

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  1. Povetkin

    Povetkin Guest

    How much impact do you think the lack of a US Heavyweight Star helped Floyd Mayweather Jr when it comes to his marketing? Do you think that the Pacquaio-Floyd feud was so great and Floyd's persona is so alienating that he could be the #1 star even among the heavyweights like Ali,Holyfield and Tyson? Or did the lack of a heavyweight star leave a void open for Mayweather to take when it comes to the face of boxing?
     
  2. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Huge

    In tyson a era floyd wouldn't exist

    That's why RJJ is such a legend
     
  3. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it definitely had an impact, but Floyd still would have had a solid, prosperous career.

    Notice that the Fab Four of the 80s broke through when the public was dissatisfied with the heavyweight division. Ray Robinson also had his peak years after the dominant Joe Louis, but before the emergence of Ali.

    All would have been stars, but the lack of a genuine heavyweight star had to help.
     
  4. kavlas

    kavlas New Member Full Member

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    It is not the lack of a heavyweight... it is the lack of any decent marketable US fighter coupled with old fashioned promoting. You must understand that to make millions of views u need to be a master at promoting...just like the UFC. Floyd appeared in morning and late shows, wwe, countless youtube clips, the news etc. Even the fights themselves have an out dated aura with the likes of lampley, ledderman, atlas and boring ass kellerman all waering their ballroom suits. Some ring girls look as if you picked them off the wallmart staff compared to the UFC. The boxing promoters are ancient declining the ideas of their younger consultants so that they can save on cash..coz all the above ideas require funding.

    The same applies to the sanctioning bodies like WBC, IBF...all run by a board of directors as old as boxing itself. Prince Nasseem came up with a couple of fresh ideas and it paid off. Oscar and pacman got into singing. Trinidad was a hometown hero.

    Only me and you..the boxing fan give a **** about upcoming boxing fights and maaybe our buddies or girlfriends might also care since we have busted their balls with our constant boxing conversations. But believe me.. we are alone.
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Don't people usually say the lack of a HW star lead to an overall decline in boxing popularity? Which would theoretically hurt all boxers' popularity/earning power?

    I think it helped financially but hurt in terms of recognition/fame.
     
  6. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    No, not really. Sugar Ray Leonard was still a megastar during the rise of Mike Tyson. Floyd has the talent and self promotional skills that would make him a star in any era.
     
  7. kavlas

    kavlas New Member Full Member

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    I forgot to mention that the US fighters surely have the talent to become mainstream such as ward, dawson, bradley etc.. however as indicated above their handlers are out dated.

    Im sure some clueless keyboard warriors will mention that ward/bradley etc are boring to watch. As i response i would like to ask you.... is the UFC star gsp any more exciting than bradley... ****er rolls around the octagon for 5 straight minutes and u dare call bradley boring? Yet the UFC is mainstream my friend
     
  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    not too much, i dont think. tyson didnt stop dlh from becoming a mega star. i think it helped him to have someone in boxing who was the opposite of his good boy image.
     
  9. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Floyd is as big as you think he is.
    Yeah, I know the PPV numbers, but that has more to do with the fact that the networks promote the snot out of his fights.

    All of my non-boxing fan friends (which means all of my friends) know Ali, Tyson, etc. Most of them have heard of RJJ and ODLH, and ALL of them know who Pac is.

    Not one of them has ever even heard of Floyd.

    Not one.
     
  10. itsmeagain1

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    Massively. The Klits have damaged boxing by boring the casuals to UFC
     
  11. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Good question. I remember when Pacquiao was still a rising star, and I was watching a debate, this was a long time ago, on ESPN. The guys and one girl were all like bring back the era of Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, and Holyfield. These smaller fighters aren't as exciting.

    I think there is something about Americans and large boxers.
     
  12. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sure If Wlad used all of his talent he could have been huge everywhere and bigger than FLoyd in USA, but he has that safety pin in his brain which doesnt let him fight like he could especially against kind of opposition he is been facing(with honorable exceptions).
     
  13. That is the single biggest Wladimir myth.. If he 'wants' to he can do this. No he can't. If he fought like the Pre-Steward version of Wlad against Haye . he will be flat on his back and knocked the **** out.
    He will be flat on his back against Sam Peter in the first fight as well and knocked the **** out. He will be knocked the **** out against Sultan as well.

    Klitschko fans make it like he can just open up at will and leave himself exposed like he did during his 3 ko lost previous career. He can't. It's not that his mentality doesn't allow him to do this. That's bull****. If he could have.. he would have. Who doesn't want to fight aggressively and be top notch entertainment?

    He knows his own weaknesses much better than his delusional fans.
     
  14. rtm32

    rtm32 Member Full Member

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    Ummm what? that is the biggest load of crap i have seen since i left the bathroom. in know world, this one or one far off in space, is floyd not the biggest star in boxing and definitely a bigger star then pac. At all points of his career
     
  15. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

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    You could have a prime Tyson, Holyfield and Ali in this era and Money would still rake in the most revenue and PPV sells. FACT!