just a quick percent estimation of the very good but now older fighters that are still fighting for the heavy weight title. from the best years of their careers how much is left of these fighters? david tua michael moorer evander holyfield tommy morrison riddick bowe oliver mccall my guess tua maybe 80% as good as he once was? mccall looks like he is at least 90% as good as his best holyfield is probably about 60% as he was before bowe im guessing cant be more then 30% then when he was beating herbie hide and jesse fergesen
70% Has a good chance against fighters who try to trade with him. That's not many, though anyone is capable of getting careless or stupid. 20% Finished. A fighter of his style, strengths and weaknesses needs to be in shape, quick, and young. He's finished. 50% He's tough. He's got a lot of talent. He's in tip-top shape. But I question his ability to go a few hard rounds nowadays, and he's hittable. He can pick up a belt in these desperate times, though. He's worth taking notice of. If there were a good few monster young HWs out there I'd say no chance. But fact is, most of the new crop look mediocre, so Holy's not to be written off. 10% Finished. HIV positive or not. And I think he is. 5% Finished. Clubfighters can beat him. 80% He's tough. Strong. Good puncher. Determined. He has something left. He's hittable though, more so than Holyfield, but his chin seems to be holding up as well as ever. McCall and Holyfield are the two I think have a chance of putting on good or even winning performances against recognized titlists/contenders. Tua has an outside chance to capitalize on anyone's mistakes, but he's a long shot. The others are going nowhere.
I heard about Mercer fighting Kimbo Slice, but I haven't heard anything about Bowe fighting in an MMA fight.
ow ****. i messed up. i was thinking of mercer. **** it. my brain's too tired. sorry for the mess up. i'm heading to bed
Sj's ratings look pretty reasonable across the board. I'd probably argue to have Moorer higher, he still seems to be able to both bang and box when needed, it's more a question of getting in the right shape for him. I'd say about 40%.
Tua- 75 percent Moorer - 20 percent Morrison - 15 percent Holyfield - 60 percent Bowe - 5 percent McCall - 70 percent
Interesting thread. I agree that McCall is the guy most capable of doing something, with Holyfield as a long, long shot to bang out a victory in a title fight. But I think McCall is the only one with a real chance. Moorer is cooked. He has no drive to train and has lost too much of his quickness to implement his former style. I think Tua is ahead of him now -- at least he still has a punch.
Tua is more out of it than is being estimated. Perhaps he's not as physically shot as the other guys on the list, but mentally he has been out of the game for about 7 years. He lost his drive, which in many ways is as bad as, or even worse than, losing some speed or reflexes.
Even if Tua was a 100% he would not be a title holder today, nor yesteryear. He's just not good enough to be a champ in any era, imho.
