For those knowledgeable about the art of plaster-- Obviously loaded gloves>unloaded when it comes to damage all factors equal, but by how much? For example in the Margo situation in which it was underneath the wraps and the gloves, would the stiffness be heavily diminished from all the padding? It also seems like it might hurt the hand more than the person being hit. Secondly, how would such damage be measurable, can the accumulated damage surface after a certain amount of time...?
I cant call myself an expert but its quite easy to think of it like this. You are more likely to score a KO and do general damage with a bare fist. This is because its harder than a glove. So Pads would make the the golves harder and even if its slight inflict more damage when punching. The harder the fist or glove the more chance of a KO or at least hurting the opponent. I doubt its something thats actually been scientifically measured but it would be interesting to find out if anyone else knows anything about this? Surely different styles of illgal wraps are going to different amounts of damage as gloves of the same weight also have different properties. Its very hard to say really..... However i do have the email address of someone that will be able to answer all your questions. with ease...... This content is protected
Have no idea, but don't care to be honest....its illegal, dangerous and as you said loaded gloves>unloaded gloves. Thats all that matters.
Firstly I think there is a great deal of difference between the following 1. Padding free gloves - Billy Collins 2. Illegal handwraps - Felix Trinidad 3. ''Loaded gloves'' - Antonio Margarito Gloves that don't have any padding are obviously very dangerous, effectively bare knuckle. I've not thought too much about illegal handwrapping - obviously there are lots of ways to illegally wrap hands.... but provided nothing is inserted within the handwraps I can't see the major issue here.... I draw your attention to the underlined however! In terms of loaded gloves.... having a plasterlike substance on the wraps would obviously induce a chemical reaction once the boxer's hands begun to sweat. However, I would imagine that given the amount of plaster on the gloves the plaster wouldn't amount to anything more than a soil like substance because it wouldn't be thick enough to set, nor have sufficient time to set properly either. The only way to get away with it would be to use loads of the stuff and hope that you get the inspector that has impaired vision!
If you've watched the documentary, Luis Resto admitted that not only had they removed the padding, but they had also inserted plaster in his gloves. So his gloves were also 'loaded'. Don't know if he lied about it (why would he), but that's what he said.
I figure that the compression of the glove remains the same despite loading, however the hand's bone structure deformation when it comes to the punch is non-existent because of the rigidity of the block. Thus, it would produce a more rigid, and heavier (due to a total increase in weight of the fist) punch. :bbb
i was under the impression that Resto's gloves were not loaded but that the padding in his glove was missing, or was it both?
Its hard and thats the problem. it would squish out and diminish the natural padding between the fists and the opponents face. The air that is within the gloves padding would also be quickly compressed out and the opponent would be eating very very sudden/hard/stiff punches without the padding.
A lot more. A punch from regular gloves can already kill a man. Adding more weight and hardness to the punch exponentially increases the force exerted. There is a reason Margarito used the loaded gloves -- they were effective, and deadly.
The difference is probably akin to the difference between having sex with a hot, soft, sexy woman, and having sex with a cold, metal robot.
I remember George Foreman on HBO arguing that plaster and illegal wraps and stuff like that doesn't affect the punches because of the padding. I believe it was during the Tito-Hopkins fight after the hand wrapping controversy.
