How much of a chance do you have Jermell Charlo upsetting Canelo?

You have no business calling anyone crazy when you think Jermello who lost to Harrison and drew with Castano ducked Timmy and he's about to get smashed by Canelo is better pound for pound than Bivol. Log off.

 

bro both Bivol and Charlo have only competed in 1 division, only difference is Charlo is Undisputed champion, and Bivol has a 3-belt unified champ in his own division that he hasn’t fought.

Bivol best win is Canelo, that’s the equivalent of Teo beating the EJ/Boots winner then losing to Jermell at 154. Bivol is a good fighter but nah it’s a unified or undisputed champion in 10/17 divisions that’s not including divisions like 147 or heavyweight where you got a unified guy(EJ/Uysk) and another guy that has a argument for being better(Fury/Bud) that’s it’s too many fighters with more wins and status to have Bivol top 10 when he not even the unified champ or the best guy in his own division. Charlo is the UNDISPUTED champion 1st since Winky wright, even in his draw and 1 loss came back adjusted and won in dominant fashion and has beaten the best guys at 154.. Charlo moving UP to fight Canelo even in a loss, is more impressive than Bivol fighting a smaller Canelo moving up to his 4th weight class.

 

Bro Bivol not even the best guy in his OWN division, very solid fighter but massively overrated due to beating Canelo.. Charlo has cleaned out his division Has a close loss and a draw came back adjusted and stopped both guys in dominating fashion. Tim is just the next guy up, but Bivol hasn’t even beaten the best guy in his own division. He ain’t fight Kovalev or Beterbiev, can’t be p4p when you not the best in yo division, haven’t fought the best in yo division, don’t got the most titles in yo division, don’t have a history at other weights, best win is a smaller guy moving up.. if Teo beats the EJ/Bud winner then then fought Jermell at 154 and Mell won that’s the equivalent to Bivol beating Canelo.

 

Somehow you tried to sneak in that Jarmell is a harder puncher than the 40 year old 168lbs Golovkin. Which is kind of funny, you get credit for trying though. There was a reason that Canelo showed GGG the respect he did in the last fight. Even though Golovkin wasn't opening up like he should have, Canelo felt the weight of those punches and realized he needed to be smart. Derevyanchenko says GGG hits harder than Jacobs and Jarmall. You think Mell hits harder than all those guys? That sound a bit ridiculous to me. He is however a respectable puncher at 154 lbs. I think Charlo will definitely be trying to box with Canelo, i don't see his power at 168lbs being being a big issue here, in terms of a threat to Canelo.

 

Yeh it's been a while u remind me of just how big Charlo was next to castano jets see how it plays out he always has a chance just not a big 1 n anther thing is both guys dnt jst throw lot of shots n have picky shot selections

 

20-25% chance if he goes for the KO late
Of course I got him getting KO’d 75% chance
By the same token

 

By tha time he gets 2 beterbev he'll be a old man

 

Close enough to no chance.

 

U know u got me thinkn just how weird it was post fight in f3 wen g n canelo were hugging n s*** after the fight was over dam awkward considering all prior insults

 

But I addressed that by differentiating brute force with explosiveness and punching accuracy. And I also pointed out that GGG at 40 years old does not have the power or the speed to deliver that power, that he had in his prime.

The point I made should not be difficult for you to grasp. Jermell Charlo's explosiveness and his ability to throw looping punches at all angles is quite different to GGG, even in GGG's prime. GGG had great power in his prime, and still has good power, but he doesn't have the speed or punch technique of a Jermell Charlo. ANd when I saw punch technique, again I'm talking unorthodox looping punches from all angles. There's a clear difference, surely you understand that. But I know you're a big GGG fan and take exception with the idea that Jermell is a bigger puncher than GGG. But the fact is, at 40/41 years old, he is a bigger puncher than GGG. And I don't think Canelo has ever dealt with anyone like him. I wouldn't say he's a bigger puncher than prme GGG or even the mid 30s GGG that he fought the ifrst two times, but Charlo does carry a lot of power and it's comparable. GGG is more heavy handed, but he doesn't have the speed to land the kind of shots that Jermel can. That's why GGG was unable to beat Canelo, because although he had power, Canelo was too fast for him to land the kind of shots he normally does. Charlo on the other hand has that combination of foot speed, punch speed and power that GGG simply did not have and it can cause Canelo problems. By the way, I'm not the only one saying that. A lot of people like Charlo's chances, not many posters on this forum but if you watch youtube boxing channels, and look at the betting lines, the odds that Charlo will win are greater than they were for GGG or Ryder.

Canelo didn't show GGG much respect. After a competitive first round, Canelo took the fight to GGG and really opened up on him. You're trying to play damage control for GGG, but this topic isn't about GGG. It's about Charlo and Canelo.

Mell is a bigger puncher than pretty much anyone Canelo has been in with, becuase of his explosiveness and ability to land big shots at awkward angles. There's different kinds of power and Jermell Charlo possesses a unique skillset and a different kind of punching technique than anyone Canelo's ever been in with. That makes him dangerous. He also has great conditioning, so unless he's hurt, he's not going to tire in the late rounds. All this makes it a very interesting fight.

 

You said it again and you are wrong again. Mell Charlo is not a bigger puncher than any aged GGG. Mell lost to Harrison who isn't known for his durability . Mell couldn't even beat Martirosyan, and we all know what GGG did to him. You didn't hear Martirosyan saying Charlo hit like a train hit him did you? Thats what he said after he fought Golovkin. Your stretching it man.

 

You don't get it. You're only as good as your last performance. Mell was a one-dimensional fighter years ago. He improved dramatically in his last fight against Castaño. He was outpoitned by Harrison because he abandoned the jab and was trying to load up on big shots. Same problem in Castaño 1. But in the rematch against Castaño he decided to box, work behind the jab, use lateral movement, etc. And in fighting that way, he made the fight easy. However even in his non-wins, no one can deny how big of a puncher he was and how dangerous he is as a puncher. GGG was dangerous in his prime, not as a 40 year old SMW. That was the point, that Jermell is a bigger puncher than anyone Canelo has fought at 168. He's certainly more explosive as a puncher than anyone he's fought at 168.

 

He has a different skill set. Golovkin is the hardest super middleweight puncher Canelo has faced.You must be getting mixed up overall effectiveness of a puncher, not the force of the blow. I guess Ryder wouldn't have anything to worry about, because now Golovkin can't even hit as hard as Mell Charlo! Please, smh.

 

Dude you are talking to a fanatic. There is no reasoning. Just look at what he claims. That Jermell is the biggest puncher he will face at 168 when Jermell has never fought even at 160 let along 168, yet he is already the hardest puncher Canelo will face. How he came up with that when there is no evidence at all on how Jermell will far above 154 is what Id call a fanatic fan boy

 

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