How much of a "fraud" is Haye, REALLY?

pointing out he beat the WBC 17th ranked heavyweight, some guy known as Tomaz Bonin like it meant anything was what i was laughing at
but in all fairness, thats better than anyone deontay wilder has faced

 

People act like Wlad punished Haye in there that fight was boring as all **** on both sides, and Wlad talked allot of **** himself along with his brother, Wlad also promised to punish Haye round after round that didnt happen Haye came out of the fight looking like he just took a walk in the park tripped on some bad pavement and broke his toe.

For being as Big as he is Wlad fights like an insecure little girl against these little guys, people tend to talk about the way Haye boxes against the likes of Valuev but I tend to say, its acceptable to see the smaller guys switch it up and fight smart against a man who out weighs you by 100 pounds and has a foot in height over you.

Whats Wlads excuse when he fights these little guys? and not only that but the mother ****er wrote on his hand #50 pointed at Haye claiming he would be his 50th knock out yet turned around came in and fought a safety first type of fight.

I can excuse Hayes performance in there boxing smart but Wlads no ****ing way your a 6'6 natural heavy with all the attributes in your corner and you come out fighting like Corrie Spinks:-(

 

you can excuse someone when fighting for the heavyweight championship of the world to not even try to win but to "box smart" ? (which means fight not to win or get knocked out)
amazing

the name of the game is to win. not get shut out

 

I think he in reality achieved much more than a regular belt holder over there.
However, based on his real boxing abilities, also his trash talking and misleading
declarations he build up some false image of a boxer who is ready to clean out HW.

One thing is he forgot to deliver the product he promised, which is not really bad
because everybody have limitation in his real abilities.

What really annoys me in him is the minimal effort undertaken, while expecting maximum
reward at the same time. For example he earned his title shot by beating Barret and then
the trash talking took him into the fight against Vitaly and Wald.

Then instead fighting one of the Klits as he was calling for ... he have chosen
the easier option in Valuev ... but then he run the whole fight scoring just a single
significant shot in the last minute of the last round. Then the best of his defenses were
40 year old Ruiz and 40 years old Harrison. Finally he put zero effort in the most
significant fight in his whole career vs Wlad.

Now after single win over over-hyped British journeyman he thinks again
he fully earned another shot at the title ..... I think all this shows that
Haye is really a fraud at HW, nothing else.

 

He didnt get shut out, the fight IMO was a draw neither guy did ****, So let me ask you this, Whats Wlads excuse? instead of avoiding that question address it.... Wlad has no excuse for that performance himself.

 

Who did Wach beat to earn his shot? what about a rematch with Thompson was that needed? the win over Chisora not just the win but how he won in contrast to how Vitali won IMO earns him a shot thats a better win that Thompson and Wach combined

 

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But nobody claim Thompson and Wach are the saviors of HW division,
Thompson also did nothing to get his rematch and this just shows
Haye is just at the level of Thompson .... NOTHING MORE.
The only difference is that Thompson is a shy guy while Haye's
mouth alone is granting him this highly UNDESERVING status.

 

Nobody is saying Haye is the savior of the division what we are saying is its about time the Champions take on bigger challenges and Haye is a much bigger challenge than Povetkin, Wach,Thompson etc...

its time Vitali and Wlad own up man up and bring some respect back to this division and its time for so called fans to stop making excuses for specific fighters not taking on real fights.

you can not deny that Haye is the best challenger out there right now at HW ......

 

Wlad did not have to fight him he chose to fight him if Wlad dumped the IBF title nobody would have been upset.

I disagree Wlad did not shut out Haye misconception by Klitschko nuthuggers.
I am damn sure David Haye was and is willing to fight either Klitschko like I said if its an easy fight there is money to be made why are they not getting this **** done?

 

Mike Tyson: "I have a lot more respect for David Haye after the Klitschko fight, I thought he was going to get knocked out."

 

Got mixed feelings about David.Wanted Enzo to beat him,but warmed to him against Valuev.Nothing in it for me,but great achievement considering size and location.Great fight against Chisora,first to stop him.Was a terrific cruiser.
Would like himto pursue a revenge angle with Wlad as well as talking about Vitali.He wasnt knocked out.
Regarding revenge,I think a fight with Solis could be a good one,but no interest showed.
As a person,came across well in the jungle.No fraud imo.

 

And this is exactly the place where Haye is fraud .... from the beginning of his HW
career Haye was treated by himself and his fans as SAVIOR of HW division.
These claims were based on his high status as the CW champion.

Haye PROVED us already he is not able to deliver anything which would
warrant to consider him as a big challenger but his fans as you still believe
in all the trash talk which comes out of his mouth for long years.

Povetkin and Adamek are much bigger challenge than Haye,
at last with them we have guarantee they will put some effort
in attempt to win, with Haye we KNOW already that the only effort
he puts is in running thru full 12 rounds just from time to time
looking for a miracle shot. ... even Pulev is bigger challenge than Haye

 

Are you ****ing crazy? Huck beat the **** out of Povetkin look at how Adamek performed against Vitali he didnt want to be there the moment the first jab landed, you talk running and fighting in ***** mode watch Adamek go full ***** against Vlitali.

Adamek also just got out worked IMO by Cunningham....

Sorry but this argument is ****!

 

Adamek's brave performance vs Vitaly was better than Haye's secure performance vs Wlad.

The only thing that makes Haye looking better than Povetkin and Adamek is
that he fights shity competition, Haye never beat another top 10 contender
while Adamek is fighting the strongest possible oposition he can find
so no wonder he is not shining all the time. I bet if Haye fought
the guys as Chagaev, Huck, Cunnigham, Arreola, Chambers he would not look
as much impressive anymore ..... so his fraud can still be preserved intact.