How much of a home advantage do U.S fighters get?

I kind of agree 50%.
In Russia and western Europe I think there are exceptions.
Sturm/Klitchkos/ make a fortune in Europe.
AA and Kessler make nice dough too as do a lot of UK based fithers.
Basically any of the tv backed fighters.
I dont know how true this is - but apparently Pirog offered Martinez 3 $million to fight in Moscow?

 

But on the real, to address the OP topic, US boxers have no more, or less of a home advantage than a "home" boxer in any other country. . This has been proven time, and time again with shady happenings in ALL countries. . .

 

Well with economic powers shifting fast these years. Maybe we will soon see American and European fighters facing each other in Shanghai, Beijing, Moscow etc.

 

Americans, and Europeans alike will all soon bow down to the People's Republic of China!

 

Changing your argument once it's debunked? Classic.

 

No fighter in the US has this type of advantage.

 

Foreign fighters don't have the lynch mob atmosphere when they come to the US. In fact, Mayweather has had more of a lynch mob atmosphere against him when he's fought against non americans in the US. What you are calling for is havinf US fighters face an unfair situation in a foreign country.

 

You cannot compare the U.S to other countries, because it is totaly different. There are so many different ethnicities that your theory is not accurate at least in the way you say. For example Mexican Americans in the west do not see Mexicans as foreigners and will back them up against anyone else thats why Marquez, Chavez jr ect fight like at home. If say Pavlik or Malignaggi fought an African alot of blacks from the U.S would back the African. If a European fights a black guy in the U.S alot of whites will root for the European, i have noticed this. The advantage might come with the ref and the judges just like in any other country, but with a powerful promoter even that does not matter as much.

 

An away fighter has to be A LOT better than his opponent to win in their country. There is no doubt about it.

Floyd Mayweather is unbeaten in America.
Andre Ward in unbeaten in America.

but just looking at recent Super Middleweight fighters with losses...

Mikkel Kessler is unbeaten in Denmark.
Arthur Abraham in unbeaten in Germany.
Lucian Bute is unbeaten in Canada.
Carl Froch is unbeaten in England

If all of those fighters did what American fighters do, and never fought away. They would all be undefeated.

Kessler lost to a Welshman in Wales and an American in America.
Froch lost to a Dane in Denmark and an American in America.

Ward vs Kessler in Denmark is a different fight. They could use the same ring and have the same referee but the fight would not look like the first one did.

Looking back over the recent records of America's top fighters is it hard to find many occasions that any title fights were outside of the United States.
Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright are the only two that I can think of.

Winky's first title fight was in France, against Julio Cesar Vasquez, he was knocked down 5 times and lost a decision. His next loss came against Harry Simon in South Africa.
There were no rematches, but those fights in America would have looked different.

Hopkins' first fight outside America was against Segundo Mercado in Equador, Hopkins was knocked down twice and the fight ended in a draw. The rematch was in America and Hopkins knocked him out in 7 rounds. It was the same two fighters in a ring and within 6 months of the first fight. But they were very different.

American fighters having every big fight in their own country is a huge advantage.

Mosley's first title fight was against Philip Holiday in America. He won pretty easily. If it was in Australia or South Africa, we'll never know. But it won't have been the same fight.

The fight on Floyd Mayweather's record that people look at as the closest he came to defeat was against Castillo.
If that fight was in Mexico, Mayweather loses clearly and probably would have to get off the floor if he wanted to see the final bell.

There is no reason for American boxing fans to see the advantage they have not travelling, because it's an easy thing to ignore and make excuses for. But a massive advantage it is.

 

"...in a real boxing arena"?As if fighting an opponent in an ultra hostile environment would be in a "real boxing arena".Anyone out there remember the reaction to Hagler's destruction of Minter?Is that a "real" enough "boxing arena" for you?You're biased is blatant.I'll tell you what troubles me.Any Englishman fighting a foreigner in England with Dave Parriss refereeing.His performances in the Tzysu-Hatton,Rogan-Sexton 1 and Barrera-Khan were completely biased and incompetent.He allowed Hatton to fight one of the filthiest fights in modern times as Ricky did whatever the **** he wanted while Diamond Dave stood there with his thumb up his ass as the English crowd went bananas.Are you going to deny that or would you call that "boxing match" to have happened in a "real boxing arena"?Your last comment in the thread,"The US is not the centre of the planet" indicates your true agenda.No **** the US isn't the center of the planet.But neither is England.

 

You have OBVIOUSLY never seen a footie match between the US and Mexico in one of the cities with a large Mexican community.And quite frankly,judging by these recent posts,you NEVER saw the 1st Ramirez-Whitaker fight either.