How much of a home advantage do U.S fighters get?

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  1. Clinton

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    One of the greatest advantages is crowd support,as well as judges,refs and simple comforts of home.But according to your thread here,your point about hometown advantage is decisions that go for/against visitors?I thought it was about Americans testing their mettle overseas?Tell ya what,after a bunch of hooligans bombarded the ring with beertins or bottles(I forget) after Marvin Hagler destroyed Alan Minter in London,he refused to fight in England or have an English ref do his fight ever again.Like it or hate it,the money here is huge.But even though Froch-Ward was in the US,it was in Atlantic City,just about halfway between Ward's Oakland and Froch's Nottingham.Did Ward have that much of a home advantage?Had the fight been held in say,Montreal,would that have satisfied your point?
     
  2. Clinton

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    Even though boxing has gone global,most champions STILL prefer to fight at home.The 1st time Bute chose to fight away,he got destroyed,but many out there forget that he was almost knocked out against journeyman Librado Andrade in Bute's adopted hometown of Montreal.I'm afraid Froch would have destroyed Bute had the fight been in Montreal.And in most sports,there is usually a home and away series,or the side with the better record gets the home match if it's just one.There's an exception if it's a per-arranged schedule.
     
  3. SleazeNation

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    I know you're stuggling, but Duran vs Moore, Minter vs Hagler?

    Surely you can find a example to fit your argument from the last 30 years?

    American's don't leave home, Mayweather, Mosley, Ward... the list goes on. I don't need to go back 40 years.

    If Ward left America he would leave home advantage. Ward vs Froch in Montreal would be interesting. Ward vs Froch in England would be very interesting.
     
  4. PrinceN

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    interesting how? To see if the judges would rob him?
     
  5. SleazeNation

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    You think Froch would destroy him in Montreal. You don't know.

    Because Froch isn't American, we may find out.

    We'll never find out if Ward dominates Froch in England. But you can assume you know he would. I don't assume.
     
  6. Clinton

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    Why do Americans need to leave home?Why do Europeans need to leave home?How am I struggling:lol::lol:?I'm afraid you're losing this one.Answer the questions.You write Ward v Froch would be interesting?How so?What would have been different?You write Ward v Froch in England would be very different.How so?What would have been different?
     
  7. SleazeNation

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    To see the fight outside of Ward's home country.

    I know there are so few examples of American fighters travelling overseas for you to understand the difference between fighting at home and fighting away.

    The difference very often, is winning and losing.
     
  8. PrinceN

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    But why do they need to leave America? Whats the difference Ward outclasses Froch they were both far from home:deal
     
  9. SleazeNation

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    Jean Marc Mormeck fought O'Neil Bell in America in 2006. He was knocked out in 10 rounds.

    On a rare trip outside America, Bell lost the rematch in France.

    It was a different fight.

    Bell lived in Atlanta the fight was in New York. It is still America.

    Ward vs Froch in England is a different fight.
     
  10. Clinton

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    Ya know what,you're right about one thing.I can't be certain that Froch would destroy Bute in Montreal.But,even though I'm not a gambling man,I would bet the house on Froch.Having written that,your vcash total is 1937,which means you wager here.Yes,you do assume.
     
  11. PrinceN

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    how break it down how its a different fight?

    Forch and Ward were far from home that is a fact :deal
     
  12. Clinton

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    Yeah,the Mormeck-Bell example seals your argument:lol:.And one more time,how is Ward-Froch a different fight?How so?Is Froch lifted by a partisan crowd?You previously wrote that a supportive crowd doesn't give a home advantage.
     
  13. SleazeNation

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    I have placed one vcash bet in my esb history.

    Froch vs Bute - 15/8 on Froch.

    The odds were wrong, Froch was at home. They underestimated home advantage.
     
  14. SleazeNation

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    It's one more example of a home fighter winning definitely at home and losing definitely away. Same fighters.

    It's rare for a one sided fight to have a rematch in the losers home country. I don't know many examples. Because people assume the win was so clear cut.

    It's why people assume Froch could never beat Ward. Bute could never beat Froch. Hatton could never beat Mayweather. Kessler could never beat Calzaghe.

    It's why home advantage is so considerable.
     
  15. Clinton

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    So,like I said:you assume.Ah don't worry.If there's a rematch in Montreal,I bet substantially on Froch.