How much of a home advantage do U.S fighters get?

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  1. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post, americans are not as nationalistic as fans from other countries because America has been producing great fighters for more than a century. Other countries who don't have as many ATGs get excited at the first sign of a decent fighter.

    Also America has been hosting so many fights involving fighters from so many different countries that the officiating and commentating is fairer than other countries (on average).
     
  2. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    It's not about nationalistic fans or fairer commentating.

    Fighting away from home is completely different from fighting at home wherever it is...

    Name one fighter who has fought away from home regularly and never lost?
     
  3. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What do you mean by home? You're aware that most top american fighters have to leave their home state to fight in Vegas right?
     
  4. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    Home is the country you live in.

    Your nationality.

    Mayweather is American. For example.
     
  5. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Ward flying 3000 miles to fight in a different time zone, climate, in a state he's never visited before is still considered fighting at home? That's BS. Home is your hometown or your homestate, not a city where you never fought before.
     
  6. SleazeNation

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    You think it is comparable for Ward to travel to a different state in the country he lives in,

    as travel to somewhere like Denmark in a different continent with a different language and completely different culture?

    It isn't.
     
  7. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not the same but it's not home either. It's like Froch fighting in northern ireland.
     
  8. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    No doubt, Ward vs Froch in Northern Ireland, I would consider a home fight for Froch. Northern Ireland is part of the UK.
     
  9. Royal-T-Bag

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    not much of an advantage at all unless they're fighting in their hometown.....neutral fight venues like Vegas and Atlantic city rarely favour anyone based on nationality. You get a mexican fighting an American in Texas and you'll have more supporters for the mexican. You have pole fighting an American in chicago and you'll have more supporters for the pole. Yall seen what happened with Mayweather vs Hatton right? More support for Hatton in vegas!! If Ward was fighting say Bute in AC there would be more support for Bute. Americans don't really rally behind fighters based on nationality cause they've been blessed with greatest fighters ever so you gotta be extra special or exstra exciting for them to get behind you and that can happen with filipinos like Pacman, Mexicans like JCC Jr or Puerto Ricans like Cotto.
     
  10. SleazeNation

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    If you think home advantage just means having a crowd in your favour, you're completely wrong.

    No fighter with more than a few away fights has not lost away from home.

    Find one fighter who travels and only wins, you can't.

    Mayweather or Ward, same fights in the opponents home countries, they both have at least 2 or 3 losses instead of none.

    Look at any sport with home and away fixtures, it is often the difference between winning and losing.
     
  11. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roman Gonzalez has fought 4 times in Japan against Japanese fighters and 5 times in mexico against mexican fighters. He's undefeated.

    Edwin Valero fought in 7 different countries and was unbeaten.

    Anselmo Moreno has fought in 6 different countries and his only loss was in his country.
     
  12. fists of fury

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    Brian Mitchell did. (Okay, he got two draws along the line, but he never lost.)
     
  13. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    I think that says it all,

    We're talking about major fights, Ward and Mayweather having home unifications while Kessler and Hatton have to travel.

    Who are the fighters Roman Gonzalez is beating in Mexico?
    Omar Salado, Manuel Vargas, Ivan Meneses, Francisco Rosas, Manuel Jimenez - The last one he fought had been knocked out 3 times in his last 6 fights.
    They're not exactly Barrera or Marquez.

    If you need to go down to minimumweight to find an example of a fighter not losing away, and they are wins against modest challengers, it's obviously a big factor.
     
  14. fists of fury

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    Did you miss my reply regarding Mitchell?

    Home soil is an advantage yes, but it varies greatly.
    Fighting in a fighter's home town is one thing, but simply fighting in his country, especially the in US, which varies so broadly from state to state in terms of ethnic population groups, is quite another.

    You can't try and broadly equate simply fighting a US fighter in the US with football. If it's in his home town then yes, but if it's simply in his country then no.
    In football (Soccer foy the Yanks) the home team plays there every fortnight on a pitch they know intimately (Pitch sizes vary, for one thing) in front of thousands of supporters who are passionately rooting for their team and are behind them 100% and giving the other team hell.
     
  15. skimarqueshc

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    It is difficult to win in the US if you are foreign

    The most corrupt place to box apart form Germany