How much of a home advantage do U.S fighters get?

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  1. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    I love how this all arises from the fact that ward beat froch...wholeheartedly. give the man his credit. it has zero to do with fighting abroad, oakland or elsewhere, and to say otherwise suggests a total underestimation of the mental toughness of elite level professional fighters...clowns.
     
  2. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    Which facts are you basing "Zero to do with fighting abroad..." on?

    Fighters perform better at home, and worse away. The history of boxing and every other sport shows that...

    Sugar Ray Robinson lost to Radolph Turpin in England, and knocked him out in the rematch 2 months later in America.
    John Marc Mormeck was knocked out by O'Neill Bell in America, and won the rematch the year after in France.
    Bernard Hopkins drew with Sergundo Mercado in Equador and was knocked down twice, in the rematch he knocked him out 5 months later in America.

    Did home advantage have "Zero to do with" those completely different outcomes?
     
  3. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    There is also international football, where teams do not play on the same pitch every fortnight. They still have an incomparable record at home.

    In big fights, the home fighter will win far more often than the away fighter.
     
  4. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    listen man, you know my opinion on this subject already. the only reason you're bringing this up is your resentment of andre ward for not fighting abroad even though he domiates fighters. pure domination has nothing to do with fighting abroad.
     
  5. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson domination Randy Turpin in America.

    But they also fought in England, he didn't dominate. He lost.
     
  6. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    robinson always did decisively better in rematches until his 40's and any sugar ray aficionado knows that. like I said, continue spouting the same nonsense to satisfy your absurd agenda. andre ward's the best super middleweight on the planet and is rounding out into a solid p4p caliber fighter.
     
  7. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    So it ok for Robinson to do "decisively better in rematches" in your opinion.
    That explains losing away, winning in America to the same opponent.

    But fighters to do "decisively better at home" - which is actually true and proven throughout history. Doesn't sit so well with you?

    You're talking nonsense.
     
  8. Atlanta

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    So according to this notion, if a guy from Montana fights a Cuban national in Miami, FL. That fight might as well be in Montana boys backyard.
     
  9. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    I'll educate you...

    Professional boxing is illegal in Cuba,

    So it would be very difficult to be a professional boxer living in Cuba, and even more difficult to defend a world title there. :lol:

    Gamboa, for example, lives in Miami - if he fought Montana boy in America - they would both be fighting in their home country.
     
  10. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    i'm not even kidding, it's tough to sense someone's intentions over the internet, but I feel you're trolling at this point. either that or you're looking to satisfy your agenda about andre ward by using broad, virtually irrelevant evidence.
     
  11. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    I'm sorry about using evidence. Maybe I should try your method of having no evidence at all...

    Home advantage matters in boxing, as in every sport, the evidence is there if you want to see it. But if you're American, you might want to ignore it.
     
  12. iceferg

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    Typical rubbish from Americans. We have seen British fighters get bood in Britain when they are in the other guys hometown but it's not the same as going abroad.

    You can still train in your gym and don't have to do all the travel. Admit Americans have a massive advantage, also the judges/promoters from the US are the most corrupt.
     
  13. m8te

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    home advantage matters. I never questioned that. it matters to a much lesser extent with experienced sportsmen, especially in the sport of boxing, which relies on one man's abilities and mental toughness during the actual athletic spectacle, versus multiple men. I said that to you before though. both froch and ward are proven veterans. the fact that ward won so decisively that night in A.C, wasn't because it took place in A.C. it's because of froch's inability, and ward's ability.
     
  14. Atlanta

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    Okay, So Froch had to abandon his gym to train for the Ward fight? :rofl And according to you Oakland and Atlantic City are right next door to each other. Ward could ride his scooter and be at Boardwalk Hall. :rofl
     
  15. iceferg

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    Ok get a grip, he's a great fighter but he didn't really win the super 6. The rules were you have 1 in Europe one in America. He didn't travel to Europe once, infact he had the first fight at home against a European champion which is an absoulute joke.

    Therefore the Super 6 goes to the only real finalist, Froch.