How much of a home advantage do U.S fighters get?

You got it. Home is where somebody lives.

There are some fighters who live in a different country to the one they grew up in, they have split nationality and two countries they call home.
Bute in Canada or Romania, would obviously be a home fight.

 

we all live on earth

 

Ward is ducking Mars.

 

What do you mean if I need to go down to minimumweight? Does that mean that the lower weightclasses are inferior? This is a very ignorant thing to say for a boxing fan. Roman Gonzalez is one of the top champions today regardless of his weightclass, you sound like you needed boxrec to know who he is.

LOL first it was "no fighter has travelled several times without losing" now it's "we're talking major fights only"

How about Moreno? Dude fought in 6 different countries (fought former champs in their countries) and never lost abroad.

And Lopez got his ass tapped twice on his home turf by Salido. Where were the home country magical powers in those fights?

You're dodging the question. Let's use another example then :

If an american fighter from the midwest fight a mexican national in LA, would you consider it a home advantage for the american?

 

this is ******ed logic...... find 1 pound for pound #1 or #2 at the time who has had the need to travel ever and who would have lost if he had to!!!! When you're at the top they come to you or you fight in the fight capital of the world Vegas where it's neutral territory for almost anyone. These guys travelling wouldn't have mattered. B-Hop coulda fought Trinidad in Puerto Rico, Pacquaio coulda fought Hatton in England, Mayweather coulda fought Marquez in Mexico........ results would be the same. US is so different from other countries in this regard but you'll never get it appearantly......

example: Atlantic City was actually closer to Froch's hometown than Wards despite being in Wards country and there was more Froch supporters than Ward supporters at the start of the fight.

If Mayweather were to fight Alvarez in Texas there would be a crowd of 90% Canelo supporters despite being in Mayweathers country....Get it?

 

We are talking major fights, that is when the US has total home advantage. That is what this thread is about.
p4p fights. In unifications. They don't travel, they stay at home, and get an incomparable advantage in every fight.

Oh yeah, winning away from home is possible, Froch made his first title defence in America, Hatton and Khan both beat Malignaggi in America. You just have to be much better than your opponent. Salido proved he was the better fighter, by a lot. If Ward and Mayweather are the best fighters in the world, they should be able to do it too.

I'm dodging nothing, I answered your question. If you live or were born in a country - it's a home fight in that country.

 

:nono

 

What is the "need to travel"? Froch didn't need to travel after winning a world title, but his first defence was against Jermaine Taylor in America.
He didn't need to, but he wanted to beat Taylor - so he jumped on a plane and did it.

What logic says the results of those fights would be the same in the opponents countries? They weren't in those countries. You don't know what the results would have been. I've given examples in this thread of fights that were completely different results home and away. Robinson-Turpin for one.

And a home fight isn't about distance, Calais in France is 50km from Dover in England. Newcastle is 560 km from Dover.

A British fighter can be in a foreign country 50km from home, and that's across a sea. Distance is irrelavent.

 

first of all I'd like to state that I AM NOT AMERICAN. secondly- you'll never get it obviously....home country advantage is different in countries that aren't America as Americans are unlike the other countrymen in boxing in that they don't rally behind a fighter for strictly being from their country. Some Americans have to travel further for fights in America vs Foreign opposition than the opposition does and often have less support. Now fighting in your home state or city is quite different but obviously this has been explained to you over and over throughout the thread and you ain't getting it so with that I'm out, continue your agenda driven campaign.

 

Hopkins beat Pascal in Canada, that was a major fight, the top 2 light heavies in the world at the time.

And Bradley has no advantage whatsoever against Pacquiao. Most people in the arena will be rooting for Pac and the judges will favor him. Bradley's citizenship won't change a damn thing.

So an american fighter from the midwest would have the home advantage fighting a mexican fighter in California. atsch

 

This is not name a fighter who once won away from home. We can do (just with British fighters) that all night... Froch, Hatton, Benn, Calzaghe, Khan...
Winning away is not impossible, it's just much harder. It's why Ottke is looked on as a bad champion...
but Ward and Mayweather are great because they're doing it in America?

Ask Pacquiao whether he would like the fight in Manilla.

Would he have the advantage then? or it's just because Bradley is American - the advantage disappears?atsch

 

You said major fights, by definition major fights don't happen often.

America has the richest promoters and the most lucrative venues, Germany doesn't, that's why Ottke was a joke. Just like Sturm now.

Pac would have the advantage in either country that's my point! It's about who the bigger star is, not who has the right citizenship. Pac is a bigger star than Bradley in the Philippines and in the US. Nobody is forcing Pac to fight in the states, he's been fighting there steady for the last 6 years, he got a house there for fuck sake.

 

Sturm already gave America a chance, they showed him some good American home cooking.

You're confusing home advantage with star status. Pacquiao has the home advantage in Manilla, because Bradley isn't a Filipino.

 

Of course in amatuer boxing if a fighter wants to win Olympic gold, they do need to travel, unless the games are in their own country.

Most gold medals US boxers ever won at an Olympics...

1984 USA won 9 gold medals...

It was in Los Angeles, California, United States.

Probably not home advantage, just happened to be better that year. Maybe.

 

Do you even know who was on the 1984 US Olympic Team?