How much of a natural size difference between Floyd and Pac?

Weight does not equally measure everyone. They use weight because that's the best thing to use. What else would you use? Height? Age? You have to go with weight but that doesn't mean that weight makes you the naturally bigger man or that it even gives you an advantage. You need to analyze fighters as a WHOLE. Everything. Not just weight. Especially when talking about advantages or disadvantages in fights.

 

Show me where JMM said otherwise?

This is what JMM said in 2010 about a match up between Mayweather and Pacquaio

"He has the great defense. He can move, move, move. Pacquio has the power, but Mayweather has the intelligence, the speed and the counterpunches.”

Where in that statement does JMM mention Mayweather being bigger or powerful?

 

It was a figure of speech

 

floyd mayweather's fight night weight was never disclosed on the night of the marquez fight. he never weighed in unoficially. obviously his team's best interest would be to understate any size advantage, giving greater weight to his victory. the weight they gave has to be taken with a grain of salt on those grounds.

i could feed a 100 lb woman until she hit 147 lbs, and that wouldn't make her the same size as floyd mayweather. that would make her a tiny framed woman who has a lot of fat on her body.

you're not answering the question. were they the same size when they fought? stepping on a scale and weighing the same thing doesn't mean that one man is not naturally smaller in boxing terms.

is marquez a boxer of the same size as floyd mayweather? the answer is no.

marquez, to my eyes (which are #2 on the most popular boxing website on the planet, and have been on press row at fights from club to world championship level,) was chubby and looked markedly smaller.

even if they weighed the very same on fight night, marquez would still be the smaller man, given that he was carrying so much more fat than mayweather on that night, whose weight would be made up of more muscle and bone (IE more natural size.)

 

You cant take their weights at the age of 16 and say they all are naturally the same size.
Teenagers grow out differently. Mayweather was probably just as tall as Pacquiao at 16 but has since grown taller. Factors like that play into it.

The better way to guage natural weight is to take what each weighed at an early adult age when a human body is allready allmost fully formed.



Marquez Throughout his 20's was a featherweight fighting at 126 lbs.

Mayweather in his early 20's was a 130 pounder, who then being as tall as he is grew into 135 lbs, and so on.

Pacquiao in his early 20's was fighting below 120 lbs, he did'nt fight as a featherweight until he was in his mid 20's.

Early adulthood is a better way to guage your natural size than it is picking what you weighed as teenager.
Human being grow and stretch different ways in their teens.

 

That's similar to a point I made earlier...

 

how clever.

 

You haven't taken into account that Mayweather was chasing fights with Mosley, Tszya and De La Hoya so moved up the weight classes more quicker than he should have. Nevertheless, his career has benefited either way.

 

The weight class is immaterial, since guys can drain themselves out to make a weight...which is what Pac and Marquez did.

 

Fair enough. :good

I used to love Van Damme movies by the way ...haha

 

How many guys drained themselves to world class status 5 divisions below like Marquez, or 7-10 like Pac? ****ing Cotto is a dead man if he has to drop 1 extra lb

 

Someone said Floyd was 4lbs heavier than JMM fight night. Aside from having no HBO figures, we have it from JMM and Nacho they were outweighed by much more. I'll try to find the quote

 

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i don't need to tell the guys in the thread who these two are. they're virtually the same age.

 

Please do...