How much of a natural size difference between Floyd and Pac?

Floyd's never fought a natural 154lb fighter

De La Hoya and Cotto shouldn't be counted as 154lb but they're big enough to have relative success at the weight

 

cotto's probably only at jr MW because he's not as dedicated to boxing as he was when he was a welterweight. he's not a big guy by any stretch. he's looked soft every tim out at 154.

 

He's only had two fights at the weight, you act like he actively campaigns in the division.

 

Diaz isnt a trainer to fcks with IMO

 

Boxing is categorised by weight divisions, not height divisions

The highest Mayweather, Marquez and Pacquaio have come in for a fight is 151

So they're the same weight size.

If we're talking height then obviously Mayweather is taller. But I repeat boxing isn't about height but weight divisions. So the use of height to argue a point is moot.

Martinez and Tyson are the same height. Does that mean Martinez will have similar success campaigning at heavyweight? The answer is a simple one.

 

When you're a 2x champ at the weight, currently ranked #1, shouldn't you be willing to face all comers at that weight, not only guys that started way lower?

 

How do we know this? We only have a single fight night weight since 2007.

 

pacquiao and floyd were separated by many weight classes for years. those were weight classes in which floyd could not compete at the time, while pacquiao was a campaigning world champion.

there is no way in hell floyd makes 135 lbs to fight david diaz in '08, the way pacquiao did. there's likewise no way floyd weighs 138 against hatton in '09, the way pacquiao did. it's not my problem if you don't remember those days because you didnt' watch boxing.



and you discounting height and reach "because boxing has weight classes and not height classes," is likewise a complete joke.

 

He doesn't.

I think it's understandable why Mayweather fought out of his comfort zone (147) in both cases.

De La Hoya has been a fighter that Mayweather's pursued since his days at 130. Whereas, there was a false stigma that he ducked Cotto at 147.

It's as clear as day Mayweather doesn't belong at 154 as justified by him weighing in at 150 against both Cotto and De La Hoya. He knows it himself that's why he's only fought those two fighters. Those fighters are special cases, as stated before, with De La Hoya being someone he's chased since the start of his career and to rid the accusation he ducked Cotto at 147.

Keeping in mind those two cases, the media and fans should be logical and give Mayweather a pass not to further campaign at JMW. The fighters there are too physically strong for him to exert his power on. If the likes of Trout, can bully Cotto round whom at times physically pushed Mayweather around. How does everyone expect him to handle other JMWs?

 

You have absolutely no response to what I said and just go off on personal attacks. Pacquaio has been a welterweight for a very long time.

He's wearing 10-15 lbs of clothing every time he weighs in? After the Hatton fight, Roach said Pac couldn't go back to 135 because he couldn't make the weight. He was a huge drainer for almost his entire career.

What are you talking about?

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People try to make Mayweather out to be some huge giant over Marquez when they are damn near the same size as well.

Mayweather and Mosley are the same height, but Mosley was always a much bigger man than Floyd.

Floyd/Marquez/Manny are all around the same size. The difference is Floyd hasn't been a huge weight cutter like the other 2.

A man of Mayweather's build where he's long limbed(legs and arms) with a very narrow chest and shoulders, makes it difficult to add mass. His frame can't support it.

Pacquaio is much thicker in the lower and upper body than Floyd. It's how he can be shorter, and yet probably walk around heavier than him. He's short and stocky.

 

But Mayweather was one of those guys that started lower. What's wrong with fighting guys that started where he did?

 

So in your opinion, what is the highest weight that Mayweather has come in for a fighting?

 

Look, we're debating man to man here. No need to disrespect my boxing knowledge. I haven't yours so let's argue safe.

Of course there's no way in 2008 Mayweather goes down to 135 because they're not aged the same and bodies have grown differently. But that's besides the point Mayweather HAS fought at 135 so what you're saying makes no sense.

 

oh that's good.

not only are manny and floyd the same size, floyd and marquez are the same size now? those two actually fought. i can see somebody being ignorant enough to make the mistake with two fighters who have never fought, but to make to make that mistake with two fighters who went 12 rounds is just too much. it's too much! :rofl

you can watch that fight and tell me with a straight face that the two men are the same size? what did you put in the pipe you're smoking?

please watch the fights, don't just talk about them on the internet. if you aren't willing to listen to me ( i was voted second best poster on bscene, a forum of over 200K. i'm also an accredited media member, though i haven't done any writing in over a year,) then you should look into listening to some of the experts, who verify my stances and refute your own.

 

I'm not gonna guess. But if you want the world to know your fight night weight, you step on the HBO scale, not have your camp manager release kinda ridiculous numbers afterwards.

Fighters can be unreliable when it comes to this. What did JMM and Nacho say about Floyd's fight night weight? Then you ask yourself, who refused next day weigh in, and who's the straighter shooter, JMM or FMJ.