How much of a natural size difference between Floyd and Pac?

Nothing wrong, but if you wanna be a legit champ at the weight you better not stop there.

 

So what Mayweather looked like on fight night against Marquez is the biggest you've seen him since returning to the sport in 09?

Also can I add that when putting on weight a fighter gets 'slower' so if you what you're saying is true Mayweather will have been the slowest he's ever been in the ring since returning to the sport.

Listen kid, I don't mean this as a disrespect but sometimes it's better to use your eyes as a means to seek the truth rather than listen to the opinions of people providing infactual (or unproven) statements.

Even if Mayweather came in as a so-called heavyweight (lol) against Marquez, he imposed hardly any physical will on Marquez. The fight was won on speed and intelligence rather than strength. Another thing, if Mayweather was planning on using speed and reflexes (which he did) to beat Marquez why on earth would he come in heavy???

 

So what Mayweather looked like on fight night against Marquez is the biggest you've seen him since returning to the sport in 09?

Also can I add that when putting on weight a fighter gets 'slower' so if you what you're saying is true Mayweather will have been the slowest he's ever been in the ring since returning to the sport.

Listen kid, I don't mean this as a disrespect but sometimes it's better to use your eyes as a means to seek the truth rather than listen to the opinions of people providing infactual (or unproven) statements.

Even if Mayweather came in as a so-called heavyweight (lol) against Marquez, he imposed hardly any physical will on Marquez. The fight was won on speed and intelligence rather than strength. Another thing, if Mayweather was planning on using speed (which he did) to beat Marquez why on earth would he come in heavy???

 

I don't a damn what you were voted. Your opinion is flat out wrong and you have no argument other than "you don't watch the fights"

 

So Mayweather's not a legit champ at 154? Even after winning belts from two fighters that beat 154lbs.

 

that's nonsense. my arguments are outlined quite clearly throughout my posts in this thread. it really doesn't bother me if you don't want to recognize them. my stance is the one held by virtually anybody with an opinion worth a damn.

throughout almost the entirety of their professional careers they have been separated by many weight classes, with manny fighting at weights in which floyd could not compete because he is too big. only recently are they in the same weight class. manny isn't there out of necessity (as evidenced by his weights for the past few years, and his eating habits,) he is there for the money.

 

Floyd was a whopping 4lbs heavier than Marquez in the ring.

 

You do realise that at the age of 16, both fighters weighed 106. Mayweather as an amateur and Pacquaio a professional fighter. Mayweather chased bigger fighters early on his career that's why he was in weight classes higher than Pac to begin with. Also he's older than Pac, and as history has shown, as fighters get older they put on weight. So as Mayweather being the older fighter he was bound to be in weight classes ahead of Pac.

They started off at the same weight, and have ended at the same weight. 106 whilst weighing in the highest at 151. It's just the paths they took to get there were different.

 

Manny was killing himself to make weight. What part of that don't you understand? I've already posted the fight night weights. He was putting on over 10lbs for every fight. He was a huge fighter and in every weight he fought at until he fought Oscar.


Manny cannot make 140 lbs. He couldn't even make 135 as late as 2009. He's not a small guy. He just cut a ton of weight.

 

Ha, exactly! A whopping 4lbs, the same difference between when Juan Manuel Marquez and Pac fought the first time.

On top of that it wasn't like the 10lbs - 17lbs difference De La Hoya, Corrales, Castillo, Cotto and Ortiz had over Mayweather when they fought. And when you compare that to Mayweather cheating Marquez by 2lbs on the scale, then adding a further 2lbs over night. It makes you laugh how butt hurt it makes people.

 

If John says he and manny are same height, then they are the same height. He's spent more time around Manny than anyone here, I trust his judgement.

 

floyd never weighed in on fight night against marquez. he almost never agrees to weigh in on fight night.


you guys really think that marquez and mayweather are the same size? you watch that fight and say "floyd had no size advantage?"

you watch manny's WW fights and say "manny is not smaller than his opponents?"


that's what has been remarkable about pacquiao's career. he's been a prolific weight climber, competing from flyweight to WW at the world championship level. he's not WW sized. that's what makes his welterweight tenure so remarkable.


i'm guessing that you've got some agenda, honestly. you think floyd mayweather and juan manuel marquez are the same size? nobody can be that ignorant.

 

New England, are you ignoring that he's putting on 10+ lbs between weigh ins?

 

The camps said the weights after the fight.

Besides it makes eminent sense that there'd only be 4lbs between them.

Floyd NEVER weighs much more than 150,even when he does weigh in on the night(According to his team he was 152 against Marquez)

150 against Ortiz

147 on the night against Judah

Think he was 151 against Cotto.

Marquez weighed in ON THE SCALES 142 against Mayweather,which would mean all he had to do would be to put on 6lbs over night and there'd only be 4lbs in it.

Marquez was weighing in the mid 140s WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING AT LW!

Floyds marginally bigger than Marquez.

People seem to forget that Floyd was easily fighting at LW up until he was 28! Approx the same age Pacquiao was fight at 135.

Floyd fought more fights in his career at 130 than anywhere else.

 

ariza is on record all over the place talking about pacquiao's nutrition for the hatton fight, and the de la hoya fight. he had him eating like a horse, and he weighed 138. there's another word for a guy who eats like that to make 138, and that's a "135 lber."


pacquiao did not outgrow the 135 lb class immediately after the. that's absurd. he was 130 one fight prior to diaz. he moved up for the money, to weigh a whopping 142 against de la hoya, again, eating like a dump truck. he dropped back down to 138 to fight hatton, again, eating like a truck. he did not move up because he was too big. that is, again, wrong. you won't recognize that, but i don't care.



is alex ariza lying now? he's a snake, but he's not lying about pacquiao's nutrition for the de la hoya and hatton fights.