How Much Should Olympic/Amateur Pedigree Affect ATG ranks?

duckweather lost alot in the AMS because he couldn't cherry pick back then .....

 

It's quite the accomplishment just being chosen to be on any olympic team. Honorable mention or added plus, I can understand that, but no, ultimately shouldn't affect a fighter's placing in the hof. Just think how many college standouts and first round drafts have failed high expectations in football. Boxing has had several of those too.

 

Yeah I agree, I think Lomachenko, Kindelan, Savon, Rigo etc. should all be in the HOF.

HOF shouldn't be just pro boxing. Lazlo Papp didn't exactly have a big pro career for political reasons, but he was elected into HOF.

You can't cherry pick in the amateurs, and losses are very common over there. We say 'wow look at Savon and Stevenson' yet they had 22-25 losses.

We look at Robeisy Ramirez right now who's the Olympic champion but he's around 75-12.

Try telling me Felix Savon shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame:
Olympic Games
Gold 1992 Barcelona Heavyweight
Gold 1996 Atlanta Heavyweight
Gold 2000 Sydney Heavyweight

World Amateur Championships
Gold 1986 Reno Heavyweight
Gold 1989 Moscow Heavyweight
Gold 1991 Sydney Heavyweight
Gold 1993 Tampere Heavyweight
Gold 1995 Berlin Heavyweight
Gold 1997 Budapest Heavyweight
Silver 1999 Houston Heavyweight (Felix chose not to fight as protest)

Pan American Games
Gold 1987 Indianapolis Heavyweight
Gold 1991 Havana Heavyweight
Gold 1995 March del Plata Heavyweight

Central American and Caribbean Games
Gold 1986 Santiago Heavyweight
Gold 1990 Mexico City Heavyweight
Gold 1993 Ponce Heavyweight
Gold 1998 Maracaibo Heavyweight

 

Of course, but it depends from whom you want to get credit from. Mainstream media or hardcore fans. Tough to get both. I think of it as a stepping stone for the pro/paid ranks, and you're supposed to eventually improve once you're a pro. A great amateur makes people wonder what could have been as a pro, as a pro people have no doubts about you because they know what you're about. Many legends will say winning a gold medal was their most memorable accomplishment, but that's not what fans will remember them for. Depends who you ask. Sometimes a scenario where fighter A beats fighter B in the ams and mainstream media aren't aware of it, but fighter B has huge success in the pros and fighter A is unknown, best way to remove doubts is in the pro ranks. Remember also many Mexican legends had few amateur fights and reached the highest pinnacles in boxing. So yes you should get credit for both, but no, it doesn't or shouldn't affect your hof standing. Just because your a gold medalist shouldn't guarantee you a spot in Canastota, but like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, seems to be getting easier for fighters to get in and many don't deserve to be there.

 

None.
Just because your a mature adult winning multiple olympic medals against very young not fully developed men, does not mean you would have been a good pro boxer.

 

Its the Olympics not the fights in th bike shed after school.

The likes of Sylvester Stallone is in the HOF, I think they can make space for the likes of Rigo, who is and has been one of the best in both pro and amateur.

 

Record of 84-6 including two blatant robberies.

Apparently Lost alot of times atsch



Mayweather had an excellent amatuer record.

 

Ya when you think about it to have Stallone in the hall of fame and no Savon and Stevenson really puts things into perspective

 

Oh, so the outcome of previous olympics would have been the same if Wlad, tyson, Holyfield, etc would have been allowed back into the Olympics during their pro carrers? After all, theyare all grown men that have been trained to box...

 

Never even thought about this.

what the actual fck.

screw Stallone.

 

The Olympics may have been different if pros were allowed back in, but that's hardly to say that the amateurs are crap because they would probably get beaten by HOF pros with years more training and experience, who were themselves great amateurs anyway. But I think you'll find that most gold medalists and Olympians are 'grown men that have been trained to box.'

Have you ever even watched the Olympics? Many professionals wouldn't and didn't win medals at the Olympics, there is only one Olympic gold medalist every 4 years in the weight category whereas nowadays there are 4-5 'champions' in each weight division in the pro game.

 

Screw the BHOF. Hardly Sly's fault those jokers put him in it.