How much Vitali quitting against Byrd should be hold against him ?

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  1. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course people haven't forgotten this - but I don't see it being used to take away from Duran's greatness.
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Duran had an ATG career where as Vitali lost to the two best fighters he fought in Byrd, Lewis. And vs Byrd he had huge advantages in size and couldn't make much of an impact on Byrd, and vs an older Lewis he couldn't get the job done.
     
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  3. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not arguing, that Vitali was an ATG, or had a stellar career that could be compared to many of the old-timers. I'm solely arguing, that it's unfair to brand him a coward, because of this one fight... when nothing else in his career hints at that.
     
  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think anyone is branding Vitali a coward, I just think Byrd deserves more credit for the win.

    I believe Byrd's defence caused the injury similar to when he fought Holyfield, and the fact he was late replacement and the much smaller man as I said.
     
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    When Duran quited he had shame trust upon him for a long time I believe. But he still has the undefeated record of SRL to boast about. And he went on to do great things to mitigate the quit job.

    As been said , there was nothing wrong with Vitali quitting if he couldn't continue. He always had a rematch opportunity to turn the loss into a win. But he didn't even do that , instead he stepped aside and fought Hoffman while his brother took the rematch. That a huge red mark on his career and would be for anybodys career.

    A few reason I believe he dodged the rematch.
    His style didn't gel with Byrds. He couldn't land a hard shot.
    Byrd took the fight on just a weeks notice and had no camp, preparation or gameplan.
    A well prepared Byrd familiar with Vitalis style would have been a more difficult fight.
    Wlads speed and power was harder for Byrd to cope with

    A guy doesn't avoid avenging his only loss for no reason. Those are valid reasons to explain why Vitali ducked the fight.
     
  6. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes he was on his way to a decision victory. He could have finished the fight and should have.
     
  7. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Given that his PhD is in sports science, yeah, this makes a lot of sense.
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What if the guy has no phd but he reads a lot ? Can he use that excuse ? I’m no phd, but I know what a acl is like…
     
  9. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    There is Vitali's mystery. He lost two strong fights, although in an unusual way. We don't know what his best win is. We don't know if the best boxer is the "Klitschko Era". And we can confidently say that H2H is a monster.