I agree with what you're saying but really they're all plastic belts. WHo is a real champ? Was Joe a real champ when he won the vacated WBO? Is Hopkins a real champ despite not defending his Ring belt at 175lbs since he got it? Juan Diaz has 3 pieces of the pie yet Casamayor is regarded as the man. It's just a circus show now and Mundine isn't the only clown in the production, when you think about it Joe Calzaghe is the only true champion in the sport at the moment. As for getting Joe down here that just won't happen anymore. $5 mil would be the most he could get down here I would think which isn't half what he's gonna make against Hopkins. He's too big for Australia now.
Blues , No mate Calzaghe was the WBO champ so had a legit claim to being one of the four recognised S/Middle weight Champs , kessler had an equal claim to being the Champ as he had TWO belts a ,The WBA & WBC belts , although Calzaghe gave up the IBF belt he is the Undisputed champ in most boxing fans eyes because he beat kessler and now is in posession of the WBA , WBC & WBO belts with the only other real Belt Holder Lucian Bute holding the IBF belt that Calzaghe gave up ,Mundine hasn't a real title , IMO The commonwealth belt is a higher belt than the BOGUS WBA "Regular Belt " If Mundine offered to fight Carl Froch and won he would be a genuine belt holder he would be the Commonwealth title holder , That WBA "Regular belt" is a worthless bit of tat that looks like it come out of Toys "R" Us & has no value in the eyes of the boxing world..Regards Josey
There is no diff between Bute's belt and the one Mundine will be sole owner of once Joe vacates it. Joe will have disgarded them both. Choc did have to fight the number 3 ranked contender (Soliman) for it after the number 2 (Lacy) rejected a fight because of injury. Belts have been vacated all throughout history, it's a part of the sport.
Blues Bute fough for the vacated real IBF belt mate , Mundine fought to be #1 challenger to the real WBA tilte , when Calzaghe vacates or gets stripped he should have to fight for the vacant Real WBA imo , Josey
Bute fought for a belt Joe threw in the bin. Mundine fought for a belt that Kessler wouldn't/couldn't defend.
Mundine's status is very comparable to Bute's, that along with the way they gained their belts. Only difference is that Bute holds the official IBF belt, but they both fought other contenders, and both Berrio, and Soliman are probably similar in ability, though Soliman's stocks would have been higher. Mundine went through a tougher path to get his belt (if you count the eliminator he won against Green) than Bute Imo, that counts for something seeing as though they both won their titles under similar circumstances.
..Calzage has he WBA tite and belt , that thing Mundine is parading around Bondi with is Mickey mouse mate ,Beating Greenie and Sam don't make mundine champ of Anything mate ..
Still, he is right when saying that when Calzaghe vacates, Mundine doesn't have to fight for the title, it will automatically become his.
..Pecks mate , Blues is spot on ,thats the worst part of it , If Mundine fought Kessler fo the vacant title and won then fair go , but Kessler lost the title in the ring and should be allowed to regain it before the fella who was ranked # 1 behind him gets it given to him . No fan of the sport can be happy about this situation surley ? Mundine should be fored to fiht kessler for the real belt ..
Well with the division the way it is I would think its only a matter of time before Mundine has to defend his title against a legit contender. With Bute and Kessler in the frame, along with Miranda, Green, Inkin and Froch asking questions its gonna be hard to avoid the real fights.
I and 90% of this little Aussie board agree with you, you're probably not gonna get what your fishing for here. You'll have better luck with Hopkins bashing on the main board.
Yes but when JC won the WBO title he was regarded as no4 at 168, and so was his belt. Mundine is currently no 3 and has a belt. So Mundine's Regular title is more valid than JC's belt at the time.
Blues , fishing ? lol Im on a few days sick leave and had the time to ask a few questions that had been troubling me , Now we all know Mundine is a cracking fighter and will no doubt win a legit tiltle in the not too distant future but that belt is bogus and he needs to step up and fght kessler asap to be called the real champ . Kessl has ben wronged imo.