How much would a win over Jon Jones do for JDS or another heavyweight's legacy?

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  1. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    If Jones moves up without losing his LHW belt, challenges JDS or whoever the champ is and gets turned away with a decisive loss, how big a win is that for the HW champ?

    A massive victory, a very good victory, or merely an expected result?

    If Jones vs JDS was signed right now for an April fight, would that become Junior's best win?

    And will a 2013 Jon Jones with six or seven title defenses under his belt be considered a better win than any HW contender would be?

    Discuss.

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  2. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    He wouldnt go straight into a title shot. He'd have to test the waters. Then we'd know how good a win by the current HW champ would be
     
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  3. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    I don't see why he would have to test the waters. There's no doubt at all that he can get big enough for the division. And he's a dominant champion already, which gives him instant cred. So if he's still got the belt when he moves up then it would be about as legit a champion vs champion matchup as you could get. Certainly more so than GSP-Silva would be.

    I don't see any need for Jones to fight a Mir type before he challenges for the title.

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  4. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    Give the guy some time, he is still young and some more defenses against solid fighters like Hendo and Rashad/Davis winner will do him good. Anderson jumped and Fought Irvin and Forrest so I don't see why when/if Jones jumped up he shouldn't get a fight against a top guy instead of going right to a title shot.
     
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  5. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    I'm not demanding that he do it. I'd like to see him build a resume at LHW that makes him indisputably the division's #1 ATG. PRIDE Wanderlei included. He's got the quality of opposition available to be able to do that.

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  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Well theres no way of saying how big a clear win over a newly HW Jones would be. The only way would be to to test the waters. If he dont test the waters, then your question cant be answered at that point
     
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  7. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd like to see him move up toward the end of this year, or the start of next year. Similar to what Anderson did. Just start with a fight against a Schaub or a Rothwell, someone of that ilk. Someone like Struve would be interesting to see, if a bit of a freakshow. Then maybe someone like Mir or Velasquez. Bigfoot could be a very interesting fight.

    It all depends how the fights go down. If he's pushing their **** in the way he's been doing to the 205s then he'd definitely be a quality name on the resume of JDS and other top heavies.
     
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  8. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    Feed him to Mir.. As much slack as ima catch for this, I think Mir beats Jones.
     
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  9. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How?
     
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  10. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    Sub.
     
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  11. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How exactly would the fight get to the ground?
     
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  12. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    It would be a massive victory for any HW if JJ cleaned out the LHW division.
     
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  13. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    Jones loves taking guys down and hammering elbows..Mir's guard is a dangerous place.
     
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  14. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Mir beat Jones? :lol:

    Jones would Vera Mir.

    Jones could take the titles from both Overeem and JDS in his next fight's back to back, and that's with him weighing in at 205.

    No man on earth can beat Bones imo.
     
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  15. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Except the two guys he's faced who have posed a submission risk (Shogun and Machida) he's been by no means keen to take him down. If you pose a submission threat to Jones he's not taking you down unless you're besting him in the standup. After Mir's recent displays I strongly doubt that would happen.
     
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