How much would Liston, Shavers, Lyle, and Norton add to Joe Frazier's resume?

liston - hof

shavers -hardesr puncher ever
Norton -hof

of course these would be major boosts.

 

Add those men to his CV and, with the Ali win, he is second only to Ali for me. Maybe only Holyfield and Lewis could claim to have as many names on their records as Joe would have, had he fought these men.

That's assuming he meets them at their peaks which are somehow synched to 1970 or so. If he beats them in his 68-73 reign as they were then - Liston being on the slide and the others yet to reach their peaks - then it doesn't add quite so much lustre to the legacy.

 

1974- 1975 yeh cool.
yeh sure mate! frazier shouldda dug up listons corpse and propped it up in the ring for a title defence,

what kind of thick are you? Kliturd self destructs once again. wit a frakking atom bomb no less.

 

Quarry had wiped the floor with both Shavers and Lyle, so rematching him was clearly superior to facing one of them. The rematch with Ellis gave close to nothing, though. And the defenses against Stander and Daniels were pretty shameful. I can buy one gimme defence after FOTC, but two such weak defenses as the only ones in two years...

In the end this would amount to beating three good contenders and a faded former champion. Yeah, that would be a boost. Not like winning the rematch with Foreman, but still a boost.

 

Even with these wins he wouldn't have close to the amount of wins over ranked opponents that Louis, Ali or even Holmes or Wlad have. And he'd still have the crushing defeats Foreman... He wouldn't be close to my top 3.

 

liston was nearly 50 by then, fool.

the only way it adds to his legacy is if he fights him in the way up while liston is still turning 40.

 

Frazier was wise not to mess with Liston.

Norton and Frazier were "friends" and agreed not to fight.

Shavers & Lyle would have been good wins if accomplished.

 

if u were kicked outta the kliturd club their average IQ would hit double figures overnight.

 

it's Would hurt his legacy because he would lose lol

 

i'm fine with 1968, why u pretending I cant acknowledge it?

how do you know, you seen his birth certificate. no one has. FLOP mate.

general opinion was he was close to 40 when he faced ali. he looked even older.