How pros train nowdays?

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bhop trained with Mackie Shilstone in prep for Tarver and he is an advocate of resistance training so Hopkins has clearly done resistance training and probably still does.

    Well by your own quote Mayweather does use free weights, just infrequently, has using free weights made him slow?

    Most top fighters will use some from of strength/resistance training whether it be weights or some other form of resistance and too think that just by picking up dumbell, barbell or using a machine will some how make you slow if your training is geared towards power/strength is absurd.
     
  2. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey, that's just the standard, man. What are you, a college football player? :smoke
     
  3. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    There is a whole library full of research that proves that statement wrong.

    Compare the physiques of sprinters and long distance runners. Who do you think lifts weighst of the 2 and who do you think is faster?

    Lifting improves explosiveness and speed.

    Modern boxer incorporate lifting and sprints into their training.

    The long 8 mile runs are becoming a thing of the past.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even long distance runners such as marathon runners incorporate weight training to their programme.

    Though your point is correct. Resistance training is a benefit for any athlete in any serious sport.

    http://www.runnerslife.co.uk/uploads/Simon_Jones/contributor_section/1391785771.jpg
     
  5. Brixton Bomber

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    dealt_with has DEALT WITH this thread! Well done, sir! ;-)

    Lol @ Mayweather!

    The guy still ties weights to his legs and shadow-boxes with them in his hands as well! Still runs miles and miles per day (despite having a VERY low energy output) and doesn't lift weights properly.
     
  6. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    Aside that you are wrong and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, do you have any scientific data to back this up?

    You as well aside hear say like my boxing coach back in 1980es said to me yada yada wieghts are bad.
     
  7. LeeJonesJnr

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    Gosh.
    No actual pro boxers commenting on here so far I can tell you that.
     
  8. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    Maybe we should go and eat raw steak before fights like Sugar Ray cause obviously it worked for him and run 20 km in army boots. That makes real men!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is where people go wrong. Never listen to a boxer, whatever their level, when it comes to lifting weights.
     
  10. good boy

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    Yes also drink Urine
     
  11. LeeJonesJnr

    LeeJonesJnr Active Member Full Member

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    When is your next pro fight?
    I'm not really sure why you think I am advocating old school training?
     
  12. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    Oops sorry mate im misread your post then. My apologies.
    I had only amateur fights.
     
  13. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Olympic lifters, and Power lifters are some of the most explosive people alive.
    Bodybuilding training however where you are focusing on mirror muscles, and muscle development is less effective.

    You will deff be slowed down for a few days, so you don't want to be lifting heavy right before a fight, but it will make you faster, and more explosive after recovery.
    You could be doing a full on Powerlifting, or Olympic routine before a fight, and shut down, a week or 2 before a fight, and get all you speed back with added strength.

    The only concern I can really see is if your weight lifting trainer is poor at programming, and gives you too much volume.
    Avoid bodybuilding.com routines.
    Do something like Starting Strength as it focuses on strength, and explosiveness.

    Another thing is people tend to think you will gain to much muscle, and move up a weight class.
    Well you can in fact move up several, but not without a caloric surplus.
    A guy could comfortably move from 154 to HW with enough squats, milk, and KFC lol.
    It's all about calories.
     
  14. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I do agree mostly, but at the same time a lifting coach with some background in boxing is preferred since he will know when to back off on bench press as not to affect a fighters training, and bag work for example.
    A boxer will have to do less volume on upper body work because of the demands of his training with bag work, and sparring.
    You will need to get the strength coach on the same page with the boxing trainer so a shoulder injury does not creep up during camp.

    But yeah most boxers probably do poser bodybuilding routines, and fail to reap the full benefit of weight training.
     
  15. VictorS.

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    You can do resistance training without lifting weights. I don't personally have any issues with weights. It took Michael Jordan's game to a whole different level. I just find it interesting that two of the very best boxers in this business do very little weight training.

    I also just saw that Mayweather said Bradley probably lifted too much weights before his fight with pacquiao.