How secure is floyd's legacy?

Anything below 140, he was easily one of the best. But anything above, he's been fighting either old or smaller opponents, except maybe DLH which was one of his best wins, but even then you could argue DLH was already on the decline. He has been scrutinized and rightfully so in recent years. His talent alone marks him as HOFer, but his character in and out of the ring as of late is going to make a dent in whether he is seen as an ATG.

If he takes the Pac fight, and schools him, he is easily an ATG.

 

easily an ATG...wehre you rank him....thats up to the person.

 

his legacy is seiled for sure top 10 of all time

 

He doesn't have the best CV of this era, that's for sure.

 

Every atg has a career defining fight (most of the time they win). Leonard had Duran, hearns, and hagler for example he wasn't always the favorite and he had to dig deep to win. That's what boxing fans remember, not mismatches and easy victories. Without pac Floyd will be remembered as the equivalent to a meldrick Taylor, a guy who had all the tools but failed at the top level. Not by losing to the biggest threat of his era but by not fighting him at all.

 

he certainly has not failed at the top level if he is still considered the very best P4P for some and a easy 2nd for the rest...not to mention he has been regarded as a top ten P4P guy for an extremely long time now...surely that doesnt equate to failing at a top level when you have beaten a dozen plus former or current champs and belts in numerous weight classes....is he the GOAT of course not but an ATG....i dont see how he gets left out.

Pac's not the biggest threat....Martinez is

 

Meldrick Taylor? come on. you can't be serious. Floyd will be ranked higher by everybody that doesn't have an agenda.

 

Floyd's great accomplishments are overshadowed by controversy and the pac situation. Twenty years down the line he will be remembered for avoiding pac. There have been alot of fighters with alot of accomplishments but not making the biggest fight in history will never be forgotten.

 

its about as secure as his sexuality.... Ask Ellerbedeal:deal

 

I see floyd a bit as pryor, He has the skills but lacks the potential resume. Still a atg but his resume will be picked apart, best wins old mosley over the hill hoya by sd or a guy like corrales. thats not going to cut it.

 

If Floyd loses to ANYONE, A, how damaging will it be to what you mention above?

 

Many people feel that Manny is Floyd's defining fight right? What if Floyd outclasses him? Would he still not be an atg? Imo Floyd has been an atg. Where you rank him is your opinion. A fighter that was top 10 P4P for a decade, 2 time fighter of the year, number one P4P before he retired, and a six time world champion in 5 weight classes. O yeah he is undefeated. I ain't no ***** but that sounds like a atg to me. PS. He also beat 15 world champions.

 

I was the one who brought this up in the other thread. So let me say this...he was great in the lower weight divisions, nobody is gonna take that away. But it's very hard to ignore the fact that he has avoided the top WW's in his time. He had a great opportunity to fight and undefeated Cotto, take on a red hot Margarito, and a younger Mosley. Now I'm not gonna put all the blame on Floyd for those fights not happening, but he should've had some of those fights under his belt.

Also the argument that he is still easily p4p in people's list, here's what I have to say about that. Floyd's skills are very good in hypothetical fights. If you look at the threads here about a hypothetical fight for Floyd he ALWAYS wins. That's the only reason people put him so high up in a p4p sense.

It's such a shame Floyd doesn't have the courage or the confidence to put his skills into actual fights. He could've been so much more, but now he is just a shameful human being and a coward of a boxer. People will never live it down if he continues to duck Pac until either one retires.