How significant would $$$$$ getting all 4 WW Belts & retiring undefeated be?

Holding all 4 belts would be a nice accomplishment, but I'm not sure much significance would be given to it. Now beating Pacquiao or Bradley for the WBO title would be a significant victory for Mayweather, perhaps.

 

That's a good point. I guess we kind of take Floyd for granted a bit. He's looked so good out there lately, you really don't look at him the same way you do most 37 year old fighters.

 

LOL!

Idiots keep bringing up Pac as some sort of ultimate measuring stick for Mayweather.
Any one with even limited boxing knowledge should realize that Pac offers absolutely nothing new to Mayweather and no real challenge.

If Mayweather fights Pac and beats him up as easily as he beatup JMM, then these same distractors will say that Pac as washed up and that the fight doesn't count because Mayweather didn't fight him sooner.
Earlier, when Pac was younger, he was quiet and didn't make much noise about the Mayweather fight. Then when Bob Arum shafted him and got him owing the IRS his life, then Pac started making noise. Now, it's pretty clear that the reaon the Mayweather-Pac fight wasn't made was due to greedy Bob Arum and Pac doesn't control his own career, or his own band account.


LOL! Pac never really had a chance against Mayweather. His style is just not the key to defeating PBF. If he were smart, he would dump Arum and discuss with Mayweather how he can get a fat check to help his upcoming retirement. If he stays with Arum, I don't expect Pac to be retiring anytime soon, and he'll become like Roy Jones and Evander Holyfield.

 

Depends on competition. If its the same level as his last 45 it's not significant at all

 

for floyd, it appears insignificant.

he has said that if he's forced to fight and defend against pacquiao, he's going to vacate...health reason i think.

 

Zab gave Floyd trouble in the first 5, and Zab ain't no Pacman.

It's foolish to say he wouldn't give Mayweather problems.

 

Let's look at Floyd's "noteworthy" wins.

1) Diego "padded record" corrales - a bum who never beat a notable fighter and got showed up by Castillo clottey and casamayor. Paper champion. Did not beat an elite fighter EVER. The fact that he was rated above Floyd, Hopkins, Lennox, Roy Jones in 2001 proves that he is extremely overrated and for this reason people perceive Floyd's victory as noteworthy when it is not. And I don't care if Lennox lost in 2001 he was still better than Corrales could hope to be.

2) Arturo "punching bag" gatti - before rios was the punching bag u had gatti who was an exciting boxer but nothing more than a walking punching bag and never beat anyone. Micky Ward was never an elite fighter, just an exciting punching bag. Ward does not count as a notable win aside from the excitement value of the fight.

3) Jose L Castillo - a guy who was never an elite fighter and still managed to beat floyd bumweather in the first fight but got robbed by the judges. Showed up Floyd and exposed him as a fighter who is only good at fighting his own fight and why he'd get crushed by Guys like Duran Armstrong Leonard hearns Langford Walker Smith Pernell and more. No excuses about Floyd's shoulder can be used. Holyfield fought a good fight vs Moorer with a hurt shoulder and roy jones beat bernard hopkins EASY with a broken right hand. If Floyd wants to hold a candle to those guys the my shoulder hurts excuse can't be used. Yes floyd did win the second fight, but the fact remains he got showed up by a good but not great fighter in Castillo. Castillo is certainly not an all time great and beating him does not propel you into the all time great ranks. Losing to this guy definitely hurts your stock.

4) Zab undisputed paper champion Judah - not a true undisputed champion. Got crushed by guys like Cory spinks and kosta tzyu. Even lost to Baldomir. Avenging a loss against Spinks is not notable because there should not have been a need to avenge it in the first place. Funny thing is even a joke like Judah was dominatin the first 4 rounds (knocking down Floyd) before he ran out of gas.

5) Carlos "Basura" Maldomir - no notable wins or skill. Zab Judah is not a notable win. Gatti is a punching bag and nothing more. Baldomir had his 15 minutes of fame from beating Judah/Gatti and that was it. Paper champion like the vast majority of Floyd's title fight opponents.

6) Ricky fatten hatton - like his overrated countryman calzaghe (who was gifted a W vs hopkins) he fought against no names his whole career and had a padded record. Malignaggi does not count as a good win. No technique no chin for hatton and a meaningless W like almost all of Floyd's wins. The fact that he was rated high on the p4p list only shows how sheep are quick to follow the herd when they have no knowledge of boxing. Most pound for pound rankings are a popularity/marketability contest these days and do not accurately reflect true skill.

7) Oscar de la fishnet - another overrated fighter who was gifted wins over sturm and Whitaker, and almost every time he fought an elite fighter got crushed - look at what happens EVERY TIME he fights top level guys. Mosley (lost twice, tough decision in fight 2) Hopkins (KO) pacquiao (TKO) Whitaker (robbery) Trinidad (3 rounds of running - not something a true champion would do) Sturm (robbery). Oscar must have had Sven Ottke as his mentor with the number of gifted decisions he got. Padded record like Floyd making a career of beating bums like Vargas Chavez Camacho and Ricardo "one hit wonder" Mayorga. Yes Chavez is a bum he made a career of fighting cab drivers (as did Camacho) and was lucky to survive Meldrick Taylor. And Oscar actually gave the "great" Floyd may weather problems and a competitive first 8 rounds before gassing like Zab SuperWack Judah. Pathetic. Oscar has the fake clean cut image and the money but thats about it since his boxing alone could not make him a star. Extremely overrated and not a notable win for a supposedly all time great.

8. Marquez - this everyone has to admit was a masterful performance by mayweather. Amazing defense reflexes and accurate counterpunching. Marquez never did anything the whole fight and couldnt get on the inside. Amazing technical brilliance by mayweather. But Marquez is the only legit prime fighter on Floyd's resume. Plus - outside of Marco Antonio Basura and Manny Wackquiao - who has marquez beaten? Undersized and tailor made for Floyd like rios for pacquiao. Marquez is a great win and a good fighter but lets not blow this win out of proportion. Beating Marquez alone does not put you in the all time ranks. Even Tim Bradley Freddie Norwood and Chris John beat Marquez. Marquez nunca seria con los mejores en boxeo y nunca podria ser. I advise every non-Spanish speaking person reading this flawless masterpiece to learn Spanish since they will be missing out on wisdom of the highest degree.

9) Shane Mosley - Floyd likes to criticize other fighters for fighting leftovers when 90% of his fights are leftovers. Mosley was Vernon Forrest and winky wright leftovers by the time he got to floyd. Old gassed and not as explosive or fast as in his prime. Despite that he nearly knocked out Floyd and crushed his supposedly Whitaker-like defense in the first 2 rounds before - again - gassing like all of floyds past prime opponents. Mosley did beat Margacheato and Mayorga prior to smashing Floyd's face in during the second round, but it is evident from Mosley's lack of activity in the next 10 rounds that he wasn't the same Shane that whipped Overrated De la Fishnet.

10) Miguel cotto - great fighter. Unfortunately he was margacheato and pacquaios punching bag before he got to Floyd. Despite being past his prime he showed up Floyd for 4 rounds and who knows how a prime cotto would have done. The "impregnable" defense of mayweather didn't seem so unstoppable when Floyd's face was cut up like the deer I killed a few weeks ago. Again, Floyd's hypocrisy is exposed as he criticizes other fighters for fighting leftovers.

11) Victoria Ortiz - never should have been in the ring to begin with. got crushed by maidana and beat another overrated guy in berto. After he headbutts Floyd and gets what he deserves with a knockout - yes what Floyd did is justifiable 100% since it was legal and Ortiz fought dirty in the first place - we again saw the fake paper champion and how weak he is when he quit against Lopez. Ortiz was basically a tune up fight like Bowe vs Ferguson it means literally nothing.

12) Robert Guerrero - like Ortiz. Beat a bum in berto and lost to guys like salido while also lying to a ringside doctor in his fight vs Yordan about the seriousness of his cut so he could get away with a no contest. The nickname of Ghost suits him since he disappears against guys he can't fight (Salido, Yordan) No notable wins. Padded record just like floyd and his competition. Like Ortiz, this win is worthless. Apparently, beating Berto is enough to get you a fight against a supposedly "all time great" fighter.

13) Canelo "basura" Alvarez - Canelo no sabe cómo pelear el solamente ganó contra bums como trout Maldomir y un Mosley viejo. No se porque los Mexicanos estaban pensando que canelo tenia una opportunidad ser "el one". Canelo no sabia que estaba haciendo en el ring y nunca vencio a un gran campeon (Mosley era viejo al tiempo que el perdio). In summary Canelo is a bum and another meaningless W. Barely beating Austin Trout who got exposed in the fight after does not make you a notable opponent. Again, if you dont know how to speak Spanish then learn it because you are missing out on some flawless wisdom of the highest degree.

With the exception of Marquez - who was undersized and tailor made stylistically, literally all of Floyd's wins come against the following 1) paper champions (Hernandez, Manfredy, Corrales, Baldomir, Judah, Gatti, Ortiz, Castillo)
2) washed up fighters past their best (Oscar - who isn't any good in his prime in the first place, Cotto, Mosley)
3) padded record fighters with hype jobs by the media with no actual substance (Hatton, Canelo, Corrals)
4) overrated people on the p4p rankings (Corrales, Canelo, Hatton)
5) Bums in general (Canelo, Ortiz, Guerrero, Corrales, Baldomir, Mitchell, Ndou, , Hatton, Pep, Juuko, Gerena, Vargas, Corley, Bruseles, Chavez, Sosa)

What has been written is UNDISPUTED IRREFUTABLE UNDENIABLE INCONTESTABLE INDISPUTABLE flawless FACT. Not opinion or conjecture. No one can deny this mastery of wisdom without demonstrating their own incompetence and ignorance, much like Floyd has demonstrated his incompetence and ignorance in believing the farce that he is anything close to an all time great boxer.

 

Remember - saying those past and future opponents have belts doesn't mean anything. John Ruiz was a champion but not exactly an elite fighter. Also saying stuff like oh Ricky Hatton/Corrales etc was rated such and such on the p4p list at the time doesn't prove anything. At one point overrated Oscar was the number 1 p4p ahead of guys like Roy Jones and Holyfield while other fighters like Hamed + Tapia were ahead of Lennox Lewis. Now that Golden Boy is in charge of Ring Magazine the p4p rankings show extreme bias towards certain fighters. (putting Canelo in the top 10 p4p and listing him as the lineal 154 champ before Floyd beat him). Most pound for pound rankings are a popularity/marketability contest these days and do not accurately reflect true skill. Copy pasting rankings/records/statistics proves nothing if you don't put them in context. Doing so will not make paper champions (Hatton/Corrales/Ortiz/Judah) appear more legitimate.

Also remember - records don't mean everything - Brian Nielsen 64-3, rocky Marciano 49-0 joe calzaghe 45-1 (the Hopkins win was a robbery), Ricky hatton 45-3 better records statistically compared to guys like evander 44-10-2, Ali 56-5, roy jones 57-8, b hopkins 54-6-2 even though they couldn't hold a candle to these fighters. Floyds 45-0 (actual 44-1 because of Castillo) is a padded record and does not legitimize him as an all time great