How tall was Floyd Patterson really?

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I met Floyd several times, he was short of 6 foot and pretty slim looking-talented guy with tons of heart-fast hands- not durable to power but most importantly pressure- He would have trouble surviving pressure fighters like Marciano,Frazier,Tyson,Dempsey but could survive the slower plodders and get off the floor to win
     
  2. barberboy2

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    What was he like? He always came across as nice guy in interviews.
     
  3. CarlChilders

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    The question was how tall is Patterson. Now how do you think he would do against various fighters.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

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    Floyd was a very nice guy, hard to imagine he was a fighter very humble and soft-spoken, he was a complete gentleman, well spoken and intelligent -he was probaly about 5"11 very fit but on the thin side
     
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    I reply the way I like and add what I like because I am a man and talk to people like they are men also but when they talk like punks I treat them accordingly
     
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    Great and I block people I want just like I will block you.
     
  7. choklab

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    Wow. Floyd always seemed a very classy guy. Great fighter.
     
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    Anyone left for you to insult? lol
     
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  9. Entaowed

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    He was 12" tall tops.
     
  10. Sting like a bean

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    Come again? I'd say Floyd was quite muscular indeed.
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    He was quite possily the fastest heavyweight of all time in terms of combination punching, and he was certainly no featherfist. I think his Achilles' heel was his Achilles chin, and it makes me wonder how good he could have been if he could take a punch better.
     
  11. Jackomano

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    According to my football coach, who knew many of the top fighters back then Patterson was 5’10”.

    Tyson and Frazier are also overlisted. I met Tyson back in 1996 and he was 5’9” at the most.

    Also according to George Foreman Frazier was also only 5’9”, which seems accurate, since Joe Bugner at 6’3.5” towered over Frazier.

    Foreman talking about Frazier’s height

    What kind of fighter Joe Frazier was:
    "When that bell would ring if you were King Kong you better put your cup as close to your head because he was coming. There would be no backing down. Frazier was not a big man at all. Frazier was about 5-9 but he would make anyone run. Put up your dukes and cover up because he's coming. He never backed up from anyone."
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    One of the worst overlistings I’ve seen was in the match between Bob Satterfield and Nino Valdez. Satterfield was listed at 6’2” while Valdez at 6’3”, but Valdez easily had 4-5 inches on Satterfield.
     
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  12. Entaowed

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    He was quite muscular compared to an average human being.
    For a HW of his time, when he gained weight & reached a little over 19O lean, he was then about average-for his height.
    For a HW of the last @ 4 decades, he is tiny.
    Most LHWs have long rehydrated to his top weight for fights
    He put on some mucle but never had a lot of mass even for a HW of his time. Fairly defined, but he just did not have a big bone structure to hang much mu2cle on-at least as he was, clean.
     
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    I believe you underestimate the heights of everyone except Satterfield.
    I met Tyson, he looked very near his listed height. But fighting taller guy2 froma crouch & being bulky all made him look smaller.
    He may actually be closer to only five foot ten or so, but that is the lowest credible height.
    Never seen Bugner listed under six four, though five likely is slightly exaggerated.
    Foreman became a good guy, but is notoriously fact-challenged.
    Frazier may or may not have been a little under five eleven.
     
  14. Jackomano

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    Earlier in his career Bugner was usually listed at 6’3.5”, but in my opinion it’s close enough to give him the 6’4”. Just like Joshua, who is 6’5.5”, but again it’s close enough to give him the full 6’6”. It gets ridiculous though when guys start adding 2-3+ inches to their height.

    At 1:25 they mention Bugner at 6’3.5” being slightly shorter than Wepner, who is 6’5.



    Also here are two different sources referring to Tyson’s height as being 5’9” during his reign and during his comeback in his mid 30’s. However, I could see 5’10” as a reasonable listing for him, but 5’11” is really pushing it.

    “Tyson, in fact, did admit Tillis landed one punch that stunned him, a sharp right, but the 21-year-old champ, the youngest heavyweight title-holder in history, dominated the action.

    At 5 feet 9 inches, Tyson bounced the taller Tillis, who sparred with Tyson before Tyson`s last fight, off the ropes twice in the first round with accurate lefts to the head and worked combinations to Tillis` body throughout the first two rounds.”
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    Ask if he thought Golota would be intimidated Friday night, Tyson said, "That's his problem."

    "Golota is not intimidated by Tyson," Certo said. "Tyson should be intimidated by Golota. Tyson is a small guy and he is older now. When you get older, big fighters intimidate you."

    "To me he's a little guy -- 6-5 (actually 6-4), 240," said the 34-year-old Tyson, listed as 5-11½ but who appears closer to 5-9. "To me, he's very small."

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    With all of the above said Tyson and Patterson’s lack of height didn’t stop them from knocking the daylights out of most of their opponents.
     
  15. Jason Thomas

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    How good did he actually do against big heavyweights, though. He failed utterly against Liston. He didn't fight Baker, Valdes, Williams, or Terrell. Other than Chuvalo, what big heavyweight of the time did he beat? A washed up Powell?

    He won the title originally from the light-heavyweight champion, and up to that time had only one fight against a real heavy of note, Jackson, who was less than 200 lbs.

    Anyway, I will be interested in your rebuttal because Patterson is hardly the small guy I would pick out as an example of a little guy who did really well against bigger men.
     

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