How the PBF-SSM rematch clause affect the landscape of boxing this year?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How the PBF-SSM rematch clause affect the landscape of boxing this year?
     
  2. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    im asuming the clause will only be activated ina close win a cuts win or a controversial points win and rightly so

    but if pac shedules anther fight between ow and may 3rd then its got to b clear to all that he is ducking the winner of the mega match

    i assume pacs next opponent was the insperation behind this thread
     
  3. roversbowers

    roversbowers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pac will fight the winner i truly believe. all this controversy has only made it bigger already. the rematch clause will enforce after the winner has fought pacquiao
     
  4. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You have some huge spelling issues, and I'm not talking about english/american differences.
     
  5. GmoNavarro

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    First of all answer what I posted you in your other thread, typical *******s Nonsense opinion without knowing anything of the sport...You called JCC one of the most cherrypickers in history then i answered you and then you cant say ****... this was your post:

    Originally Posted by asero View Post
    Who ranks Higher, Julio Cesar Chavez or Roy Jones Jr.?

    We can say that these two ATG's are easily top 10 cherrypickers among all the all-time greats.
    Both had been p4p king for multiple years and a top notched ring tactician in their primes

    in an ATG sense, who should be ranked higher?

    Maybe who is the third best fighter after the leonard era as pac and sweet pea has a locked at the top two spots.



    Then i Say:

    Here are one of the 100 "TOMATO CANS" JCC fought:

    JCC
    Good Wins
    1) Mario Azabache Martinez (TKO … Great win against a top fighter and upcoming contender at that time, both young promises collided and Chavez stopped Azabache in eight, after that fight Azabache lost a controversial decision over roger Mayweather followed by a very close fight split decision defeat against Azumah nelson 3 and a half years later…

    2) Ruben Castillo (TKO 6) … Another top fighter at that time who had been koed by Alexis Arguello in the 11th but before that round it was a very close fight he gave a really tough fight to Arguello, later he was defeated by the great Salvador Sanchez in a 15th close UD, after that he went match Chavez who had a great performace knocking him out in the 6th, a very good win by Chavez, Castillo was never the same after this ko…

    3) Roger Mayweather (TKO 2) … A good fighter upcoming contender at that time was totally brutalized by the young Chavez, great performance…

    4) Jeff Bumpus (TD 5) … Bumpus was coming from being defeated by Vinny Pazienza and Haugen both in UD defeats in the same year, but he was still young and got a chance against the top fighter Chavez and he lost in a technical decision, I think he was thrown to the sharks back to back to back… an ok victory for Chavez…

    5) Rocky Lodridge (MD 12) … Another top fighter who faces the undefeated Chavez, rocky was coming from a very tough defeat against Wilfredo Gomez, a very closed fight and he did also a good performance against Chavez but not enough, very good win for Chavez…

    6) Juan Laporte (UD 12) … Another experienced good fighter, he never really beat the top fighters like Sal Sanchez, Pedroza, or Wilfredo Gomez but he did beat Ruben Castillo, he was a good fighter so it is a good win…

    7) Edwin Rosario(TKO11)…No need an explanation for this one, a masterful performance against one of the top p4p fighters at that time, a great win…

    Rafael Limon(TKO7)…Even Limon was past his best still a nice win on his resume, Limon went life and death in a trilogy with Bobby Chacon before fighting JCC still a good win…

    9) Jose Luis Ramirez(TD11)..A great win for JCC, Ramirez was coming from an impressive win over Pernell Whitaker , Ramirez had divided a series of 2 fights with Edwin Rosario, a very good win for JCC…

    10) Roger Mayweather(RTD10) …Again a great performance against a good boxer for his 2nd time, very good W…

    11) Meldrick Taylor(TKO12)..No need explanation for this one, a great undefeated fighter enters to the 12th winning the fight to get koed in the last seconds of the fight, and NO JCC had not lost the first 11 rounds of this fight, he was losing entering the 12th but by no means the first 11 rounds, that is BS, Taylor had taken a ton of punishment before entering the 12th you can know this by looking at all the damage taylor was found after the fight..best fight of the 1990s..great win..

    12) Hector Camacho(UD12)..Camacho was past his best but JCC as well and Julio totally dominated him, it was a great performance by him…

    13) Greg Haugen(TKO5)..Haugen was past his best but JCC too and it was a total demolition in front of over 100,000 fans, a very good win…

    14) Terrence Ali(TKO6)..A good fighter, the way JCC dominated him was impressive, good win…

    15) Meldrick Taylor(TKO…Second time he beats him, a very good win even Meldrick was past his best…

    16) Tony Lopez(TKO10)..One of the best wins for JCC, Lopez had beaten before Lockridge x2, John John Molina x2, Jorge Paez, Joey Gamache and Greg Haugen and JCC dominated him, a very good win for JCC..

    17) Giovanni Parisi(UD12)…A good fighter in his prime, Julio totally dominated him, good win…

    1 David Kamau(UD12)…An undefeated ok fighter , an ok win..

    19) Joey Gamache(TKO…A good fighter who had been in a fight with tony lopez which lost by tko in the 11th while he was winning the fight entering to the 11th, a very good performance by JCC…


    A few other good fighters(from anarci post):

    Adrian Arreola - Who Knocked out big favorite Lupe Pintor around this time

    Danilo Cabrera- Held his own with Mcguigan and Nelson solid contender

    Rodolfo Aguilar- Undeafeated and winner of the Forum tournament beat some good fighters

    John Duplessis- Slick fast prospect who ran like Usain Bolt in this one

    Lonnie Smith- Former champ was a speed demon who also ran like Bolt in this one

    Angel Hernandez- another undeafeated PR contender

    Andy Holligan- Highly touted undeafeated fighter from UK

    MIguel A Gonzalez- Chavez was past it but i thought deserved the nod over a prime solid Champ Gonzalez who was in every ones top 10 pfp list.

    Frankie Mitchell another solid contender who Chavez went through pretty easily.



    SO YES A TRULY CHERRYPICKER !!!


    So if you dont know **** about someone or something STFU ******* !!
     
  6. GmoNavarro

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    First of all answer what I posted you in your other thread, typical *******s Nonsense opinion without knowing anything of the sport...You called JCC one of the most cherrypickers in history then i answered you and then you cant say ****... this was your post:

    Originally Posted by asero View Post
    Who ranks Higher, Julio Cesar Chavez or Roy Jones Jr.?

    We can say that these two ATG's are easily top 10 cherrypickers among all the all-time greats.
    Both had been p4p king for multiple years and a top notched ring tactician in their primes

    in an ATG sense, who should be ranked higher?

    Maybe who is the third best fighter after the leonard era as pac and sweet pea has a locked at the top two spots.



    Then i Say:

    Here are one of the 100 "TOMATO CANS" JCC fought:

    JCC
    Good Wins
    1) Mario Azabache Martinez (TKO … Great win against a top fighter and upcoming contender at that time, both young promises collided and Chavez stopped Azabache in eight, after that fight Azabache lost a controversial decision over roger Mayweather followed by a very close fight split decision defeat against Azumah nelson 3 and a half years later…

    2) Ruben Castillo (TKO 6) … Another top fighter at that time who had been koed by Alexis Arguello in the 11th but before that round it was a very close fight he gave a really tough fight to Arguello, later he was defeated by the great Salvador Sanchez in a 15th close UD, after that he went match Chavez who had a great performace knocking him out in the 6th, a very good win by Chavez, Castillo was never the same after this ko…

    3) Roger Mayweather (TKO 2) … A good fighter upcoming contender at that time was totally brutalized by the young Chavez, great performance…

    4) Jeff Bumpus (TD 5) … Bumpus was coming from being defeated by Vinny Pazienza and Haugen both in UD defeats in the same year, but he was still young and got a chance against the top fighter Chavez and he lost in a technical decision, I think he was thrown to the sharks back to back to back… an ok victory for Chavez…

    5) Rocky Lodridge (MD 12) … Another top fighter who faces the undefeated Chavez, rocky was coming from a very tough defeat against Wilfredo Gomez, a very closed fight and he did also a good performance against Chavez but not enough, very good win for Chavez…

    6) Juan Laporte (UD 12) … Another experienced good fighter, he never really beat the top fighters like Sal Sanchez, Pedroza, or Wilfredo Gomez but he did beat Ruben Castillo, he was a good fighter so it is a good win…

    7) Edwin Rosario(TKO11)…No need an explanation for this one, a masterful performance against one of the top p4p fighters at that time, a great win…

    Rafael Limon(TKO7)…Even Limon was past his best still a nice win on his resume, Limon went life and death in a trilogy with Bobby Chacon before fighting JCC still a good win…

    9) Jose Luis Ramirez(TD11)..A great win for JCC, Ramirez was coming from an impressive win over Pernell Whitaker , Ramirez had divided a series of 2 fights with Edwin Rosario, a very good win for JCC…

    10) Roger Mayweather(RTD10) …Again a great performance against a good boxer for his 2nd time, very good W…

    11) Meldrick Taylor(TKO12)..No need explanation for this one, a great undefeated fighter enters to the 12th winning the fight to get koed in the last seconds of the fight, and NO JCC had not lost the first 11 rounds of this fight, he was losing entering the 12th but by no means the first 11 rounds, that is BS, Taylor had taken a ton of punishment before entering the 12th you can know this by looking at all the damage taylor was found after the fight..best fight of the 1990s..great win..

    12) Hector Camacho(UD12)..Camacho was past his best but JCC as well and Julio totally dominated him, it was a great performance by him…

    13) Greg Haugen(TKO5)..Haugen was past his best but JCC too and it was a total demolition in front of over 100,000 fans, a very good win…

    14) Terrence Ali(TKO6)..A good fighter, the way JCC dominated him was impressive, good win…

    15) Meldrick Taylor(TKO…Second time he beats him, a very good win even Meldrick was past his best…

    16) Tony Lopez(TKO10)..One of the best wins for JCC, Lopez had beaten before Lockridge x2, John John Molina x2, Jorge Paez, Joey Gamache and Greg Haugen and JCC dominated him, a very good win for JCC..

    17) Giovanni Parisi(UD12)…A good fighter in his prime, Julio totally dominated him, good win…

    1 David Kamau(UD12)…An undefeated ok fighter , an ok win..

    19) Joey Gamache(TKO…A good fighter who had been in a fight with tony lopez which lost by tko in the 11th while he was winning the fight entering to the 11th, a very good performance by JCC…


    A few other good fighters(from anarci post):

    Adrian Arreola - Who Knocked out big favorite Lupe Pintor around this time

    Danilo Cabrera- Held his own with Mcguigan and Nelson solid contender

    Rodolfo Aguilar- Undeafeated and winner of the Forum tournament beat some good fighters

    John Duplessis- Slick fast prospect who ran like Usain Bolt in this one

    Lonnie Smith- Former champ was a speed demon who also ran like Bolt in this one

    Angel Hernandez- another undeafeated PR contender

    Andy Holligan- Highly touted undeafeated fighter from UK

    MIguel A Gonzalez- Chavez was past it but i thought deserved the nod over a prime solid Champ Gonzalez who was in every ones top 10 pfp list.

    Frankie Mitchell another solid contender who Chavez went through pretty easily.



    SO YES A TRULY CHERRYPICKER !!!


    So if you dont know **** about someone or something STFU ******* !!
     
  7. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    Mosley doesn't have a rematch clause, he's going to lose, so the clause will affect nothing.
     
  8. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It won't unless something with Pacquiao happens. If Mayweather wins, GBP will be hard pressed to have an immediate rematch when they could make more money in the Mayweather-Pacquiao Showdown. If Mosley wins, same issue though a Mayweather rematch might be just as big.
     
  9. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    you have issues

    talk abut boxing not spelling
    im asuming you understood it so grow up and respond properly