How to Beat Floyd Mayweather (Floyd's style analyzed)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mtotheg93, Oct 3, 2013.


  1. leftleftright

    leftleftright Active Member Full Member

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    Nice analysis. One thing people forget is that Floyd has had Maulers other than Castillo. Jesus Chavez and Ricky Hatton are two that come to mind. I frankly think the Mauling/Castillo strategy is stale. Guerrero attempted it and look what happened there. Floyd has many new weapons/strengths since that fight.

    Zab was effective early because Floyd hadn't adjusted to his speed and skill and Zab made Floyd come foward 95% of the fight. Zab can fight going backwards and Floyd isn't usually the aggressor the entire fight. Zab set traps for him early and caught him a few times. Floyd adjusted and the fight was over.

    I think the problem with analyzing Floyd is that he hasn't shown us everything he has. It's tough to say what can beat him because of his versatility. I still think his worst possible match-up is with Hearns. Something makes me think Hearns could keep him at a distance with the Jab and Footwork, make the outside a weakness for Floyd and if he connects with a good right hand, the fight is over. I used to think it was a cut and dry Hearns win 90% of the time. I don't think it's black and white anymore.

    One thing is consistent and clear, Floyd is not easy to find in the ring. Floyd would go into the fight knowing what we all know, watch out for the jab and you can't get hit with the right hand. Can Floyd consistently slip and parry Tommy's jab? Does Floyd have the foot/hand speed to get counter offense off from the outside or is he completely neutralized on the outside? Can Floyd get and stay inside? Would Floyd commit to trying to hurt Hearns rather than just score points so he could take the outside back?

    One last thing you forgot about Floyd's uppercut. A punch he uses frequently on the inside as a lead and counter.
     
  2. mtotheg93

    mtotheg93 New Member Full Member

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  3. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    One of the best posts I've seen on here.

    Props for the very accurate and thoughtful assessment. :good:good
     
  4. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    all the essay's in the world buy non fighters dont mean ****. you better off just picking a fighter from back in the day and saying a guy like this can beat floyd.
     
  5. mmorrison1132

    mmorrison1132 Member Full Member

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    The problem a fighter has to remember all of this and then try and implement it. It's not simply a style match-up, a fighter must have good decision-making in the ring under pressure because Floyd thinks so well down to the Championship Rounds a good fighter must make choices based on your Analysis in mere a split second.

    It's ridiculous. :lol:
     
  6. mtotheg93

    mtotheg93 New Member Full Member

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    ill oblige to your method and say Duran would have had an excellent chance at beating Mayweather.

    My way of seeing things: anyone can blurt out a name and say "so and so would have beaten so and so", but it takes more thought to lay out the reasons why.
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    There is a very good reason that Void will not fight Pac. Styles make fights and Pac is the wrong style for Void. Void is extremely afraid of Pac because he believes that he could very well lose to Pac.............Void, Sr. said it right after Pac stopped Cotto! Void has been running ever since!
     
  8. The_Destroyer

    The_Destroyer Active Member Full Member

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    Link please. thank you
     
  9. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    very good analysis. well thought out and written.

    i agree with most of what u said...but i will add that the reason castillo and cotto had minor success against floyd was because of intelligent pressure. they didn't just come in swinging mindlessly. i also agree that cotto did better than castillo in spots for the same reason...he took away floyds offensive lead/pot shots, but cotto took it a step further and took away floyds counters as well. you've never seen floyd miss so much. what ruined it for cotto was that high guard and his tendency to lean on the front foot. as the fight went on and his reflexes slowed...so to did his reaction time to what floyd threw. that's why floyd took over late. a simple shift in weight to the back foot and a little bit of head movement mixed in with the high guard would have given floyd more trouble. that's the thing zab was able to do...sit on the back foot and set things up. unfortunately for zab...once floyd adjusted to what he did...he took over.

    floyd is very good for giving ppl different looks. it confuses them...and forces them to slow down or switch gears. the guys who can't usually end up getting slapped around and losing the fight before they realize what happened. cotto was prepared...for the most part...and gave floyd several different looks. he actually out boxed floyd at one point in the fight and the commentators mistakenly assumed he was running from floyd because he was hurt. that was not the case. floyd is very beatable. it will just take an intelligent fighter who can fight hard and smart for 12 whole rounds. i actually believe danny garcia and keith thurman have all the ingredients necessary to give floyd tougher fights than both castillo and cotto.
     
  10. jawbreaker

    jawbreaker Active Member Full Member

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    Well thought out, but not the solution.
     
  11. mtotheg93

    mtotheg93 New Member Full Member

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    Pac has the tools to beat Floyd.
    But his flaws in defense, impatience, and rather predictable nature will result in defeat. If Marquez can read him, you can be sure as hell Floyd can read him.
     
  12. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Actually you're wrong. Manny has the perfect style for Floyd and Floyd would dominate him. Manny tends to come forward in straight lines and can't cut the ring off. He doesn't use the jab and with Floyd's fast feet and reflexes he can control the range easily against Manny. No point in going into anymore details bc you wouldn't understand.
     
  13. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no boxer around 130-147, catchweight that can beat Floyd. Having a blue print is great but finding the boxer good enough.

    The closes one to giving Floyd problems was Cotto, Mosley (2nd round) Hoya and Castillo. If you watch these fight. There's one thing that is the only chance to beating Floyd. What is it?


    It's simple.. hit Floyd, hurt him and damage him. That's how you beat or break him. Give him something or else like Carmelo Alverse ginger's powerpuffs punches the kid got toyed with in derre!!

    Floyd gets hit enough. I swear he'll be in reverse mode all night. But the thing is not one of these cats except old ass Mosley and Cotto have the power to put a dent on Floyd.
     
  14. nicamarvin

    nicamarvin Guest

    I would Red K you if you was on NSB forum.... such a Dull post. :bart