How to beat Vlad in my humble opinion

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  1. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    excatly

    ibragimov weighed 219
    chagev weighed 224
    chambers 209
    brock 224
    byrd 213

    heres what alot of guys dont understand

    Wlad is ROCK ****ing solid at 244

    ibragimov was ****ing flabby at 219

    so that tells you his natural weight should be around 210 or 205

    you can look at the 21 pound difference and think its not a big deal...but look at them next to each other. its night and day. and the results of the fight shows it.

    a guy that will be this version of wlad is a guy with a buster douglas type style...a big guy, with a great jab thats not scared to throw it and not scared to throw right hand bombs....you have to be big, not scared to throw and be in top shape...because this guy is..... and there isnt anyone around who fits that douglas style.
    haye is the only guy with a chance.....but if he gets in the ring, will he even take a chance ? first he has to man up and fight him, then once in the ring, dont do like everyone else and try to survive
     
  2. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    If a heavyweight comes along who can move and hit the way Ali did (or Pacquaio does) then we'll see an interesting fight. WK is still an olympic gold medallist though, so it will still take more than moving and hitting at the same time to beat him. It will be good to see though
     
  3. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wladimir doesn't throw the uppercut, and what you on about, wladimir doesn't need to throw the uppercut? Theres many occasions when wladimir could of thrown the uppercut. the punch lennox, the superior boxer was great at, but instead wladimir goes for the clinch, because he's scared to get close now.
     
  4. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wladimir is good till he gets hit, then he goes pear shaped. he has no survival skills. he has no chin. his stamina is suspect. he doesn't let his hands go. he doesn't have an inside game, so when a fighter gets close, he's ****ed. david haye will show these flaws.
     
  5. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    this^^
     
  6. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only person gonna beat Wlad is Paea Wolfgramm

    Get your gloves back on sonna
     
  7. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The issue is that Wlad has speed, power and a great distance game. On the rare occasion you can get inside, he ties you up.

    Beating Wlad is easy in theory, he uses the same tactics every time out - but he's so good at it that these one dimensional fighters just can't compete. Also, Wlad's chin isn't as bad as people think - he can take enough shots that he's only lost three fights.

    A fighter like Haye actually has a better chance because of his speed, power and movement - plus he changes his approach every fight to match his opponent's style. Wlad will have more trouble with him than many believe.

    Povetkin is busy enough to make Wlad think, but his skills are lacking to do what he needs to. Adamek's too small - simple as that. Who else is there?
     
  8. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    In that case Rocky marciano or Joe Frazier would do the best against him. They can probably out muscle him and Frazier loves to go the full 12 rounds and do some bullying himself. And that glass chin may as well be shattered before 12 rounds.
    Marciano is even worse, he has more variety of punches and has a good left hook and a DYNAMITE right hand. And his crouching style would be hell for a heavyweight like Wlad. Wlad would have to punch down, and that's not where your power is.
    I also think that Ali could outbox him and Holmes maybe knock him out. Holmes has decent punching power, one of the best straight rights i've seen in a while.
    So according to this information, the swarming heavyweights (Joe Frazier, Dempsey, Marciano, Tyson) could beat Wlad, and the skilled stylist heavyweights (Ali, Holmes, Joe Louis, Sonny Liston), Would beat Wlad as well. I add in Sonny Liston and Louis because their punching power would trouble wlad, and their body work is decent. Liston's punching power is astonishing. Louis is a great puncher too.
     
  9. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very good post.
     
  10. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    For his nuts, maybe.