How to fix corrupt scoring in boxing: "altboxrec.com"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by conraddobler, Feb 20, 2012.


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  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    What would Glen Johnsons fight with Lucian Bute produce from this altboxrec scenario.

    Would Johnson then be able to say he beat Bute simply because he felt he was robbed after being shutout by 3 scorekeepers and the 20 million impartial fans scoring the fight. I could name 5 guys who had Johsnon beating Bute, but they were all Bute haterz. What if they were accidentally chosen as judges for this site.:rofl
     
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  2. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And you call HIS IDEA utopian? LOL talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

    If it gets big enough, it could get mentioned during televised fights, like the tweets and polls.
     
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  3. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    do it up man, it's a good idea but it ain't gonna happen unless you make the site. otherwise this is just another suggestion that never comes to fruition. It's your brainchild, no one else is gonna do it for you, make the site yo! Chalk me down as a judge, I score and keep records for every significant fight from 112-heavyweight.
     
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  4. florin3k3

    florin3k3 Member Full Member

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    What I want to know is how would they judge a fight where there is a supposed long count (Douglas-Tyson) or where they feel the fighter was out on his feet (Andrade-bute I) or head butting (ward-Kessler) this can influence a fight more than any 1 judge can. Especially if the other 2 are fair and unbiased
     
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  5. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    read the OP and come back when you understand what's been written.
     
    conraddobler, Feb 20, 2012
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  6. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    the name is inessential. Could be "altscorecard.com"
     
    conraddobler, Feb 20, 2012
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  7. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The response has been pretty positive. I might do it :good
     
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  8. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    It's a great idea and you should really do it. I'll judge if you need me too.
     
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  9. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The things you mention are referee-related. This proposal does not and cannot address those things.
     
    conraddobler, Feb 20, 2012
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  10. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'm not sure it would have to involve the sanctioning bodies. The whole idea is that it subverts the sanctioning bodies and corrupt powers. It's a grass roots operation. If it succeeds in getting aggrieved fighters, boxing journalists, fans, etc. to take notice, then it achieves it purpose and may even put pressure on sanctioning bodies to crack down on corruption.
     
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  11. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Sweethome_Bama has better scorecard than yo momma.:hi:
     
    igor_otsky, Feb 20, 2012
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I do this anyways.

    I disregard official results in favour of my own scorecards and to be honest i'd dismiss even these consensus scores in favour of my own.

    If you could somehow mirror the boxrec site (permission needed) it would be more user friendly especially if the alt results are highlighted.

    I like the idea, would be good if you do stick with it.
     
    lufcrazy, Feb 20, 2012
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  13. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Easier way to fix corruption in boxing.

    Force Judges to answer for their scorecards and to have post fight press conferences. They have a BS excuse for why their scorecard sucks, make them famous for all the wrong reasons.
     
    Atlanta, Feb 20, 2012
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  14. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't be so naive!
     
    Cableaddict, Feb 20, 2012
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  15. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Indeed.

    One way to fix our dying sport. :good
     
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