How To Fix Judging An Help Save Boxing

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  1. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HBO, Showtime, ESPN Etc.

    For all televised fights or all fights.

    There should be a pool of 50 judges for the United States and say 10-15 for smaller countries. Look at past scorecards and determine the best judges per country.

    When a fight is in the US for example ten judges would be assigned to a fight.
    30 min prior to the fight 3 of the 10 would be randomly selected and would view the fight remotely. This would prevent corruption as it is much harder to pay off ten judges than say 2.

    The closer the judges are to the proper scores the higher their pay and the more fights they work. The other 7 judges who are on call would receive a small fee for having to be on duty.

    There should be training and testing.

    Scoring could be open and announced at the midway point

    Possible assignment of judges - 1 judge only for ring generalship 2. clean effective punching 3. regular judge on all criteria possibly 2 and a fifth could be compubox and it only counts if a fighter wins total punches thrown and percentage landed.

    What could you add or subtract from this to take boxing out of the dark ages and into modern times taking advantage of technology ?

    Also instant replay to see if cuts were caused from butts or blows.

    We love Boxing because it is both brutal and beautiful at the same time. Judging (in general) aided by technology should be part of the beauty not the brutality.
     
    Exactabox, Jul 10, 2011
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  2. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You've described a perfectly rational solution. Problem is that the promoters like it just the way it is.

    Incidentally, I would prefer in your proposal that instead of three judges there would be 10. Outlier scores would be trimmed. Promoters, referees, fighters, and the judges themselves would be blind to their identities. Judges would be rated based on their reliability (e.g. correlation of their scores with the mean of the other nine judges). Low reliability judges would be removed from the pool.


    By the way, this system could be implemented by the boxing community independently of the "official" sanctioning bodies who pick the judges (presumably with the help of promoters...). Could be a way of delegitimizing he official scoring and having an "alternative" non-partisan body that would score fights.
     
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  3. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes love this idea of delegitimizing :good
     
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  4. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Imagine this:

    Kellerman: "So Erislandy, you lost your last fight in a questionable decision to Paul Williams --"

    Lara: "Actually, I reject your premise entirely. According to the NPBSA (non-partisan boxing scorers association) I won the fight 117.2-110.5 and my record is 16-0-1. I, as do many of my peers, consider the NPBSA the "official" determination of boxing scores and records. Go to NPBSA.com to see how they scored the fight."
     
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  5. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That would be stellar. As it is now the promoters or commission or Alphabet organizations have to fly in corrupt judges from often times foreign countries, put them up in a hotel, pay them and possibly give them extra money or guaranteed future work if they score favorable for their fighter. it is illegal and criminal.

    I could fall under the RICO act.

    Why pay 10,000 in flight and travel expenses to bring corrupt judges when with that money you can hire the best and judges would know the more credible and unbiased they are the more work they would get.

    A system that promotes integrity is needed now.

    We should start the NPBSA ;)
     
    Exactabox, Jul 10, 2011
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  6. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'm in. Maybe Roy Jones will give us some seed money.
     
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  7. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreign judges are imune to the flag waving.
     
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  8. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not mini flags on little sticks
     
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  9. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First of all boxing doesn't need saving. Boxing is not dead or dying. It is simply not as popular as it once was in the US. True enough there is a great deal of corruption in the sport. A true fan of boxing is not only a fan of one particular boxer. The sweet science will never have a lock-out. That's the beauty of one of the few sports that doesn't have a season. I guess American football and basketball needs saving huh.
     
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  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    But then Pacquiao would have 4 losses
     
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  11. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Love the idea.
     
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  12. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    delete
     
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  13. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    big deal your boy wouldn't be undefeated. Castillo 116-112
     
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  14. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    they really do need a better system, as this current setup is awful
     
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  15. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Timmy my brotha. Yes it is horrific and the technology is there to be used yet too much greed to even implement new measures to better the sport.
     
    Exactabox, Jul 10, 2011
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