How too beat the best defence ever?

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  1. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In my honest oppinion it is Floyd Mayweather's defence.

    Since he says he is the best ever, how would the best boxers ever around
    his weight act against his marvelous defence.

    Floyd Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Robinson ?

    Floyd Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard ?

    Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao ?
     
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  2. omiyourhomie

    omiyourhomie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    castillo already beat him in my opinion....

    :deal
     
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  3. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd won the fight, and his defense back then wasn't what it is now
     
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  4. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    castillo had his moments, but I am talking about a prime time floyd, not a ~ middle trained, a bit hurt pre fight Floyd.

    lets say Floyd of the Coralles or Gatti fight, or even the Mosley one, a speedy, cat reflexes, high IQ defence magician Floyd, how do you beat that, how do you hit him, without getin hit yourself or how do you hit him in his face too make more simplye question?
     
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  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson

    Robearto Duran
     
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  6. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The keys to beating an atg counter puncher with atg defence are 1) length, 2) hand speed 3) jab.

    At 147, this includes...

    Robinson
    Hearns
    DeLaHoya
     
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  7. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    finaly 1 good answer
     
    Chempasillo, Jul 18, 2011
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  8. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is the best boxer to ever live! He will never be beat and once he dimantles everyone out there that they say can beat him people will once and for all give him his due credit as the best boxer to ever walk this earth!
     
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  9. Blizz42

    Blizz42 Boxing Addict banned

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    Fight like prime Duran. Boxer/puncher.
     
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  10. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    Floyd's defense is definitely not the best ever. Not in any way you look at it.
     
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  11. ChrisKim47

    ChrisKim47 Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd's defence is good, but it was and could be better still. He backs up too much, when he decides to go into defensive mode (and he does have different modes he fights in). I blame Floyd's passivity with his age, and maybe less rigorous training.
    Top notch guys like SRL always kept you on your heels. How you might ask? He would always be moving, seamlessly incorporate offence, defence, and countering all into one. To put it plainly he boxed, and non stop. He would throw a jab, wait for you to jab back, counter it with a left hook, step and spin out.

    I would see SRL just pressing the fight against Floyd. Just walk him down with jabs and feints. Then just swoop in and out with 2 and 3 punch combos. SRL had ATG power at WW, and Floyd doesn't. Feint, jab, combo, power, speed, and just being slick. The proactive boxer at the elite levels almost always wins.

    SRR
    SRL
    FMJ vs MP ? good luck have fun.
     
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  12. slickback

    slickback Active Member Full Member

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    this!

    we all know sugar is amazing and as close to perfect as it gets

    Roberto on the other hand will look bad early on for the first 2-3 rounds but the constant and smart pressure that roberto applies with the power hes got will wear floyd down and the fight will turn in which roberto should 8-4 or a 9-3 withround 3,4 and 5 being the close ones

    atleast thats what i think



    *i fixed your typo :good
     
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  13. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    floyd defense can be broken like any other . It's not the best defense bc he doesn't show a lot of variety in his defense. He's always in the same positions ,and relies on the shoulder roll too much. With the right punches + feints you can keep him in that position and exploit the gaps while creating openings.
     
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  14. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Yea, I like putting Floyd in fantasy match ups with Robinson and Duran. They all started off in similar weight classes. It's stupid to imagine Leonard of Hearns against Floyd, they're much bigger than him.
     
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  15. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Yo tasco the feel of the inside of a boxing glove is as foreign to you
     
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