How too beat the best defence ever?

Yes. Exactly.

Floyd has a great slippery/counter punching defense. Slippery as say...Sweet Pea? No. Is he as good a counter puncher as say... Hopkins? Yeah, probably.

Is he as athletic and nimble as Roy Jones Jr., Sweet Pea or Ali? I don't think so.

The other thing is, while his defense is good, its not his best asset. The thing that makes Floyd great is his ability to adjust on the fly. Switch his game plan and patch the holes that his opponent is exploiting.

Example 1: ODLH jab. Oscar was having some success against Floyd with the jab and with pressure, but the work was wearing him out. Floyd saw that and was able to change the pace of the fight and ODLH gassed out, unable to keep up that pace. Good thinking on Floyd's part.

Example 2: Learning from the success ODLH had, Hatton came in to apply pressure and crush Floyd on the inside. The pressure Hatton was using for 10 rounds had Floyd guessing. Instead of panicking Floyd found flaws and, instead of getting wild, he maintained composure and waited for the perfect spot to lay a trap and KO'ed Ricky. Again, cool headed, good thinking and changing the way he fought throughout the course of the fight won that fight.

Example 3: Mosley. Quicker, powerful, tough. Showed early he could catch Floyd if there was an opening. Floyd changed his game plan mid-fight, stayed outside and wore Mosley down, physically and mentally. Frustrated him into an uncomforable frame of mind. Then, later, opened up more and exploited the older guys gas tank and frustrations.

Third. Hearns would dismantle Floyd with the reach, power advantages. SRL was equally quick, but flashier. Sweet Pea was slicker, a better puncher and finisher. SRR crafty, powerful, tough and no slouch in speed or power. Duran, like Hatton but tougher, more powerful.

 

Best defense is a fighter yet to be seen. 2063 Caltin Michaels 154 lbs from Cleveland.

 

a Hearn's like fighter can break his defence.

 

Its actually quite easy to be effective against the shoulder role. #1 dont fall for the trap of thinking you are doing damage because you are making contact when you punch. You are falling right into Floyds plan. he is NOT a slow starter... he gives you the early rounds to trick you into thinking you are being effective. when in actuality all you are doing is wearing yourself out so he can pick you apart when you start slowing down. #2 Throw a quick one two, and instead of following with the hook... come back with a hard jab which WILL catch him when he moves his glove to the right side of his head to catch the hook. #3 Be tall with a good reach, and be content to win on your jab. #4 Be in amazing condition... the kind of condition needed to fight hard for 3 minutes of every round. Much like Castillo did. Personally I feel most fighters fall victim to floyds plan which I outlined in the first strategy.

 

In rewatching Floyd Castillo I noticed The BLUEPRINT.
The body to slow him down. He is all speed and reflexes no power gear to switch to.
this is why he likes to fighf older fighters.
You pound the body early he shuts down and you stalk and pressure him.
Castillo executed it lovely round 5 and 6. I assume Victor will try this from Round 1.
His chin is phenomenal so headhunting is a waste of energy and moral. all body and the rest comes down after.

 

Part of his defense is ad******g to whatever your trying to do and countering it demoralizing the will to continualy use that plan.....it is not as easy as some on here suggest it is.

I expect it would take a great fighter to accomplish the task though....the ones he is almost often put up against are the fighters who are naturaly bigger than him.

The fighter to beat him will need to have some natural physical advantages as well...alot of the best athletes have a natural body structure which allows them to be as good as they are also.

Floyd uses his brain in the ring coupled with his boxing ability he's not an easy fight for anyone.

 

Sweet Pea??? Mother****er

 

Now it makes sense why he retired in 2008 = Cotto & the left hook to the body
Why he took Victor Ortiz = Undisciplined Headhunter
Why Mosley gave him trouble Round 2- Jab to the body - everything is to protect the body to keep his most important thing going = stamina

 

:-( people have been using this strategy ever since. Come on

 

Really ? Name one good body puncher who was not old who he fought since ?
If an older fighter like a OLDH, BALDOMIR or MOSLEY do catch him to the body he is still on an even playing field at worst stamina wise. it's all calculated into the finding the right opponent.
Gatti, Corrales, Ortiz = headhunters - already lost because creatures of habit
don't get me wrong always a risk but I think they underestimate how unbelievable his chin and conditioning are.

 

Gatti's whol strategy was to go to Mayweather's body. Hatton is a very known body punchers. De La Hoya mostly tried going to the body. I'm sure Baldomir's plan was the same as well.

 

yes but ODLH and Baldomir were older so he had the stamina edge even if hit like I said he still at worst on an even playing field.

Gatti and Hatton are come forward one dimensional.
Judah = stamina issues
JMM = packing on the extra weight he knew would be awkward for him and slow him down fighting 2 classes above his norm.

Cotto is the one guy in retrospect he had reason to fear in 2008.
Great shape and at the time had one of the best left hooks to the body in the sport.

Ortiz will need to work his one weakness. His left side of the body by countering his jab with the right hook to the body.

 

Even Nicolino Locche lost a few, and IMO, his defense was a level up from Floyd's.