How Two Ton Tony Galento would KO. - Vitali & Wladimir Klitschko

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  1. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he would K.O wilder for sure. Louis said he was one of the hardest punchers he ever fought. He split a 300lb heavybag in half once.

    Imagine if he stopped drinking and eating bad food and actually trained?
     
  2. latineg

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    wow, he is using RED font, he must really be serious this time :bbb
     
  3. James Townes

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    No, I believe Two Ton would've murdered the bum... my reason and phrasing was a little confusing..but it still tops the Wlad over Ali string..
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    ... That what I meant...I could think of a number of old timers who would've wiped the floor with tin man.. Marciano, Louis, and even Two Ton.. When Wlad, bends down too low, and he'll have to, to hit him, and whammm.. he gets a left hook from hell..
     
  4. James Townes

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    Wouldn't that be a hilarious match up? Can you see them in the center ring facing each other before the fight..6'9" Fury vs 5'9" Galento. Even funnier when this short beer barrel flattens the giant.. Tall fighters have trouble punching down... their punches need to travel straight or up, or on a level plane, like a hook, something they can put weight and leverage behind, to have ko power... The only punch Tony would have to watch out for is the uppercut...and oh brother, if it misses...Tony had a roundhouse right that would flatten a horse, like Mongo.. Many today, logically deduct..that like other sports, modern boxers, with their supposedly superior training, diet, supplements, make today's boxers supermen to the former greats.. where, in fact, their soft life, outside the ring...make them soft, maybe not in body, but in spirit and heart.. Today's methods helps athletes become better athletes, they swim faster, run faster, jump further and higher, break old track records. But fight better? , I don't think so... the big money, the big media exposure, the big hype, and all that, for the chosen few, reduces them.. There are exceptions, but old school fighters had to tough it out alone...making what they could on the way up.. The toughest, made it to the top, by shear mental toughness and fists of steel.. Today's mentality just thinks bigger is better.. And at some point, it becomes ridiculous...Are we to allow someday a human mutation who is 9 ft tall and 600 lbs. fight a normal size heavyweight for the heavyweight title, then claim him as the greatest of all time, just because he was huge? If that is the case... we are entering an era that requires a new weight class to be fair...Gigantic men, should fight gigantic men.. not normal size fighters.. Would you put a welterweight in with a natural heavyweight..? It's an old adage, that a good big man beats a great little man...Not all the time.. It still depends on the fighter, doesn't it..? The old school fighters were naturally hardened, inside and out... winning their next fight might determine if they eat steak the next day, or peaches and soup...Or sleep outside, instead of a hotel.. their training methods conditioned their bodies for fighting, not posing... They had ****** like strength and endurance, not canned biceps, that look good. but fill with lastic acid quicker and fatigue faster..And it sure doesn't increase their tickers, what's inside.. The greats of old, were just naturally hardened, just real tough men who just happen to box...not too tall, not too muscular, but just naturally bad to the bone.. They lived in rough times, and it made them rough men.. no matter how big they are today, they are cream puffs inside compared to the great fighters of old...:bbbThat's just my opinion...
     
  5. BCS8

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    Two Ton was an underrated TANK. He would have taken care of Ali no problem. Ali would have tried to float like a butterfly but Galento's killer left would have swatted him like a fly. Then Tony would have gone back to finish his ice delivery, and to smoke a cigar. Guys were avoiding him. ;)
     
  6. James Townes

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    You know I'm a fanboy of Ali.. And my natural inclination is to argue against what you said.. but I won't... Your opinion is as good as mine any day...or anyone else for that matter.. It wasn't trollish like the ones that get personal... If Tony had taken his craft more seriously no telling what he would have done, maybe flatten Joe Louis again in that round for the 10 count. He was one tough cookie... Max Baer too.. many boxing pundits have said Max would've been rated much higher if he had been so incline.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Clearly I need to work on my trolling skills ;) Galento could beat Ali if Muhammad tripped over his shoelaces on the walk in and hit his head on the side of the ring ... :D

    I seriously do think that Wlad would have a good shot vs Ali though. Maybe I am overrating Klitschko here, but I don't think so. I am a firm believer that you need serious power to beat WK, Muhammad was a solid, but not devastating hitter. Ali would be playing with him in a battle of the jabs which is about the worst possible place to be with him. Ali was great at counterpunching, but Wlad doesn't often get himself off balance ... he is a very poised fighter.

    There's no real way of knowing, sadly enough. Maybe I'm wrong and Ali would put on a dazzling display that made WK look like a clumsy oaf. I doubt it, but there's a reason Ali's in almost everybody's top 3 ever. Peace, pal. It's all in fun.:good
     
  8. HerolGee

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    prime 2 ton might well destroy wlad fast, after all a retired shot guy did it in seconds...but he might well come unstuck with vits.
     
  9. chitownfightfan

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    McNuggett or Gavern are the modern day Galento's.

    They have their moments vs prospects or the odd comebacking fighters, but chances are that if Galento were fighting today, he'd be a LHW or be kicked out of every gym he paid to train in. :rofl
     
  10. jesse

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    I just brought galento up to my dad and he told me my grandpa knew him from being a cop in Newark...my dad is quoted as saying "two ton tony galento...the ugliest human being I've ever seen in my life" :rofl
     
  11. chitownfightfan

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    He's Jamey Toney's estranged daddy.:lol::lol::lol:
     
  12. James Townes

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    Yeah, you're a lightweight in trolling department.. but you make a lot more sense that way.. The fights I have watched, Wlad is pretty much a clumsy oaf all by himself.. mechanical.. He looks good when fighters stay squared up on him..meaning, in line with his basic one-two punches...jab right.. and a hook, when someone bends their head in it's path.. Ali would be circling and giving him angles.. his footwork wasn't just to avoid, it was to set traps for his cutting jabs when the other guy was off line to counter.. There were so many Alis that it's hard to pick the best Ali.. and there were some terrible ones too.. There was an Ali we never got to see, possibly the best one of all.. When he was exiled in his prime years... If I had to pick the best.. it would be the three Frazier fights and the Forman fight.. Some say his best was with Big Cat Williams, maybe so.. I know Williams was shot, but Ali did what he's suppose to do with a shot fighter, destroyed him easily.... But even in that condition, Williams would have cracked Wlad otta there...The plain facts are, Ali fought and beat at least 8 former champions that I know of for sure, and every top 10 contender... Two of his loses, he should not even have been allowed to fight ... he was shot...the brain damage taking it's toll.

    It's not just me, there is a majority consensus among real boxing historians and experts, not just us armchair rail birds and trolls in here.. that Ali dominated the greatest heavyweight era of all time.. many he fought would have been champs themselves in other times, certainly today... And when was the last time we had an undisputed heavyweight champion in this ABC diluted boxing era.. I'll answer that myself...November 13, 1999 to April 29, 2000, Lennox Lewis, WBC, WBA & IBF .. That's the last time folks.. that's 15 years without an undisputed heavyweight champion...Lot's of pretenders though.. Is it just me, or does that suck? :fire
     
  13. James Townes

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    I must admit, I'm not familiar with those two.. I'll do some homework on them.. yes, there are a lot of unknown dark-horses laboring in the media dark, relatively unknown, who could upset the heavyweight apple cart. The heavyweight division needs a savior...BAD!

    Right now, I truly believe, the Ronda Rousey vs. Cyborg super fight between women.. would get twice as many PPVs then any PPV Wlad was involved in.. And that may be a tremendous understatement... Not taking anything away from the ladies... But that is a sad state of affairs boxing has gotten themselves into.. I wouldn't pay to watch a Wlad's heavyweight title fight.. Would you? But I might pay to see those two women fight...I know I mixed MMA with boxing, but I did that to illustrate my point only.. Which is, Wlad, has not been good for boxing..not his fault really, great opponents make great heavyweights, not their padded records, and as the heavyweights go, so goes boxing.
     
  14. chitownfightfan

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    Wlad has beaten the cream of the crop thru 4 generations of fighters. He's missed out on a few key HWs due to ill timed Ls, promoters, and timing, but his record is as good as any top 10 ATG in terms of quality/quantity combination.

    That said, neither Gavern or McDermott are HW saviours. Theyre journeymen, the same thing Galento would be if he were fighting at HW in modern times.

    Unless of course he was a committed fighter in which case he'd be campaigning at LHW, which like HW, already has a savior.

    But.....an in shape, properly trained and motivated Galento vs Kovalev would be a great s****.
     
  15. chitownfightfan

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    As for Rousey vs Cyborg......

    Secks sells.

    A secksy young female fighter is gonna sell. Especially if she's dominating her competition.

    In terms of marketability, the USA sports market is dominated by 4 major sports, of which neither boxing or MMA get real close to matching due to the nature of one on one sports in which a single loss tends to send a fighters stock dropping.

    For instance.....Andre Berto could beat Mayweather and his stock will rise, but to what end?

    Would he become a PPV star? Not a chance. B/C as soon as he fought Khan or Thurman or Spence, he'd be knocked around like a rag doll and send him back to nowhere.

    But.....if the Chicago Cubs won the world series.......the Cubs would be considered one of the best teams in history, b/c theyve gone so long without winning one.

    Kind of how ppl look at the Miracle Mets of 68. :think