How was it with weight cutting in the past?

I think that back in the day fighters would cut a tiny bit of weight, like 2-4 pounds or something. In modern day boxing boxers cut about 14ish usually and ATG fighters moving up (like Pac or Mayweather) cut about 7. Thankfully outside of a handfull of fighters like Canelo or some such its no where near as insane as MMA weight cuts of 20-25lbs.

And ironically its actually more dangerous on the fighters to do this, but the problem is that the fighters themselves think they benifit from it (despite the fact that they all do it and the ones that dont dont because they are better then them) so unless a bunch of known fighters just start dying from it all of a sudden it, like the crazy amout of weight classes, are probably here to stay.

 

it is not something they can do to the body too often. but boxers today so rarely get in ring at all.

 

It WAS Brutal for fighters.

here is one example of how hard it was on fighters, often impossible to do even, and of course the absolute Strength & Energy Zapping reality it had on a fighter at Short Notice negotiations...

fighting as a L-HW for nearly 3 years, and having to sustain that weight for his fight against Big Al Marson, a L-HW cum HW, just 2 weeks before meeting Cerdan, whom Bert 'blew out in a 2cd round KO and where Cerdan 'Scouts' were sent to watch... here's a Report on this.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1....pZGAFnTWKVYGWY_uyudIgmKKYlWW3m0wQ&oe=6329BF0E

Well Gilroy is requested to come in at 12 stone 6 originally, but upon arriving in London TWO Days before the fight, Bert is demanded to cut further, to get down to 12 stone even - absolutely impossible.

Drying Out for 48 hours, Gilroy couldn't make the weight but died trying, he is lucky he didn't suffer serious injury. It is a dangerous excercise at very short notice, which in past times, it often was.

and Here is a Report from a French Publication, the Weight dispute. Cerdan put Gilroy knockout (www-lemonde-fr.translate.goog)

"The battle had begun well before the match: at the weigh Gilroy charged on the scale 78 kilos 471, while the fight had been concluded at the limit of 76 kilos 100. Cerdan, who weighed 73 kilos 200, protested against this handicap of more than 5 kilos, but he still wanted to honor his signature... and the British public."

it was Hard to do, Dangerous & often a Advantage Tactic in favour of one fighter over another.

 

I have Posted these very facts many, many times where discussions about Today vs Past matches are proposed, but as you say, in many a case these scenarios are not even same weight fighters at all.

 

Gotta admit, I'm with Dubble here.

Rehydration limits are the only way to get back to some kind of even playing field, and the closer that limit is to the weight class, the better.

 

Problem is, rules have to be consistant. Bad but consistant rules are better than no rules.
With weigh-in on fight night, Kovalev wouldn't be competing at 175, so beating him at that weight is hardly an accomplishment. The rehydration clause for that fight was 185 though, for clarity.

I believe there's some commisions in Canada that still do weigh-ins on day of the fight. I think Philadelphia was doing it until not long ago also.

As for the question in the topic, one of the reason weigh-ins were moved to day before the fight was cancellation of Michael Spinks vs Eddie Mustafa Muhammad rematch on day of the fight, after Eddie missed weight. It caused a lot of issues for organisers. I think They felt having more time to sort out issues of that sort in the future was a good safety net.

 

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you DON'T Need MORE Time... IF Fighters Claim to be a Certain Weight, that is the Weight they should be competing at!!!

 

While I also don't like how it's all set-up today - I think it's a bit more complicated than You make it sound like.
Whether You have weigh-ins 1 day before a fight, 3 days before a fight on day of the fight, fighters will be looking to gain an advantage. I think it's indeed going to be more dangerous on fight day, as fighters just by the nature of the sport They chosed, are not very concerned about risks, or rather believe that any potential risks don't apply to them. The mindset You need to have to be successful in the fight game.

I heard about the One-championship innovations though and that's something that looks promising. From what I read, result was pretty much all fighters who get there from different organisation, move up at least one division automatically.

If there was a way to remove the weight-cutting aspect from boxing, it would be amazing. Fighters could be more active, I'm pretty sure that a lot of fighters dread going into training camps because of what They go through while cutting weight, You'd have athlethes at their best more often, as most of the time fighters deplete themselves, because They feel that They will be more successful at 80% of their abilities against smaller men, rather than at 100% of their abilities against bigger men.

 

The idea that fighters consistently entered the ring at the weight they weighed in at until day before weigh ins started.

 

Assuming the boxers dont die at a higher rate. If they do, **** what the fans think is fair.

 

Tbf it's all the fans complaining about rehydration limits, and no boxer has died due to it yet, plus it makes the contest fairer.

 

Well, day before weigh ins were started to protect the boxers.

 

I know we have day before weigh ins. I'm talking about rehydration limits.

 

Yes, day before weigh ins were started to prevent boxers from entering the ring while dehydrated. A rehydration limit ignores the concept.

 

No one has died due to a rehydration limit. We've just had fairer fights.