How was Marciano so good?

You will never see another Rocky Marciano, he was one of the best of the Roman warriors and Charlie Goldman was his artist but Marciano was made from the finest stone. Walcott, Charles Moore were still fine craftsman who could punch and Rex Layne 34-1-1 (avenged all his defeats and draw) was listed by Nat Fleischer as the next Dempsey but Marciano ruined him. He also ruined Walcott, Charles,Lastarza and took a large piece from Archie Moore with that beat-down...Archie still went like 38-4 in his next 40+ fights but was banged up after Marciano

My uncles rooted against him for their local guy 6'4 16-1 Carmine Vingo and then again for 35-0 Roland LaStarza but after those 2 fights they became fans and were convinced to root for the Brockton guy

SRR,Willie Pep, Hagler,Monzon,Duran,Leonard & Leonard are some of my favorite fighters but Marciano had so much and I rate him high on the lb4lb list as well

 

I would say Layne was his arrival in the big times, July of 51. Four years later he was ready to retire. In contrast Wlad K has been fighting at the top level for 13 years, Holmes fought 7 years at the top, then another 3 in his second act. Ali, forget about it.

Marciano exploited a small window wherein the best heavies weren't all that heavy or opposing, mostly cuties and aged ones who didn't have the type of physicality that dominated the division later on. A decade later, Marciano doesn't go undefeated. Two decades later and he considers a different career.

 

P4P is not head to head heavies. You can see the difference, I am sure.

 

Hairy italian manliness.

 

Anyone seen the full 15 rounds vs ezzard charles?

 

Great power for his size, better defense, especially as he progressed than many give him credit for, and the will to win that only the great ones possessed.
I've said this before and no one seems to even want to comment but it is SO extremely hard to compare fighters from different eras. A 2000 Rock would have been even more chiseled, better training regimen, better diet, etc. He would have been a 200+ pound speciman. In contrast, the Klits wouldn't be the beefcakes they were in the late 40's early 50's. Plus fighters fought so much more often then, given the economics, etc. of the times. A 70's Marciano "considers a different career?" atsch
Couldn't disagree more. All hail the Rock, tho as the resident Floyd 'nut-hugger' I would have given a young Floyd a chance against a late 56-early 57 Rock.
My $0.02

 

Good points but not relevant to the time in question pre PED.:good

 

I agree Sonny may have stopped him but that doesn't take away from his legacy.

 

I agree with the decade stuff, you cant do it, you have to take a great fighter for how great they were in their era...Marciano beat the best men, the biggest men lost to Charles,Moore,LaStarza,Satterfield,Johnson and Marciano fought his # 1 5 times (unheard of) If the Klitschko's went back to the 50's they would be smaller men, they did not have the muscle growth back then Klitschko's father was about 6 ft

 

I agree totally.

Uh, could he really have been more chiseled? The dude was ripped to the bone. He was one of the most conditioned athletes who ever graced the sport. His lilliputian dimensions of height and length of bone were his drawbacks when comparing him to more modern, larger heavies.

He was wide waisted, narrow-shouldered, extremely short-limbed specimen. Adding 15 pounds of anything to his physique would have made him an immobile bowling ball. His best fighting weight was between 185 and 188 and it would have been the same in any era. His T-Rex arms weren't getting any longer. His slight feminine shoulders weren't getting any broader. His low centered, 28-inch inseam wasn't increasing. He was a midget in a man's game and he found the time to succeed.

 

It doesn't matter what you think, he would have still been at least very good in those eras. Put him in the 1960s, not many guys could beat him. In the 1970s, again there wouldn't be many. Put him in the cruiserweights from the 1980s onwards, and he has great success.
He's a very good fighter wherever you put him.

 

That's your idea of feminine ?

 

:blood

 

Hey Seamus! I do agree with you but a 2000 Rock would have had, shall we say, a bit more training and grit than the 48-54 version.