How well does Terry Norris do if he moved up to Middleweight?

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Had Terry Norris decided to move up to 160 after defeating Meldrick Taylor in 1992 how do you see his chances over there? The competition at 160 was definitely much more stiff around the early 90s consisting of a young RJJ, James Toney, Bernard Hopkins, Gerald McClellan, Mike McCallum, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Reggie Johnson, John David Jackson. Would he have been able to hold his own with his skill alone? His notoriously bad chin has always been detrimental to his overall abilities but he was still very gifted to at least make it competitive. Beating any of them is another question.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't do well at all.

    Norris has an incredibly weak chin for a top class fighter and there's some very big punchers on that list and he didn't have the physicality to deal with those top class Middleweights.

    RJJ, Toney, Hopkins, McClellan, Jackson again, Benn, Eubank before Watson, would all stop him.

    I like Norris as a fighter but let's be real he feasted on shot fighters or blown up Welterweights.
     
  3. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His chin really did hold him back a lot for someone as physically talented as he was. Probably knew his limits and wisely stuck around 154. Norris against McCallum would have been interesting though. Would he have a chance against the version that fought Toney or does he also get stopped by him as well?

    It's quite interesting how his best wins are mainly fighters who were no longer the same as they were in their prime and had also moved up to face him. Funny enough Norris was also calling out Chavez and Whitaker as well. Two guys who were obviously smaller than him as well. Norris really did enjoy having the size advantage.
     
  4. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with the previous posts about Norris not having a lot of success at 160 but I don't think his chin was horrible. His biggest problem was he was almost all offense and would seriously neglect the defensive side of the sport and it cost him. I think he could knock off a few guys with his hand speed and talent but Toney, BHOP, McCallum etc would have taken him a part imo.
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I don't see him getting through the division with out getting KOd a few occasions.
    I've got to say I loved watching him, he was one of the most exciting and unpredictable fighters of the time.
     
  6. Fireman Fred

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    Norris seem to change styles after becoming champ, before he was more a boxer. He outboxed the then undefeated future middleweight champ Quincy Taylor (koed Julian Jackson for the title) and later on the veteran former champ Buster Drayton.

    The Mugabi destruction and the easy win over Ray Leonard turned him into a seek and destroy fighter.

    The only exception was the Siimon Brown rematch.

    He would get violenty stopped by all, oddly enough I think he might have a chance with Jullian Jackson (post the 2 McClelan losses) in 1995 as Jackson was never the same after McClellan but I wouldn´t be surprised seeing Jackson doing another Graham come from behind one punch ko.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don’t think too well unless he cherry picks very carefully. And the middleweight division of the 90s in particular was loaded with big punchers
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He wouldn't even get into the ring with JC Vazquez at 154. How's he going to face the list assassins who haunted 160 in the 1990's?
     
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  9. Thread Stealer

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    Not well.

    He was on the small side for 154 (look at how far he got down for the catchweight bout with Meldrick), and had a poor chin.

    Things would get real ugly for him.
     
  10. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Terry Norris is one of my favorite fighters…but some guys just need to stay in their division…Just like Bob Foster should have stayed at 175
     
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  11. Turnip mk3

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    There was talk of a Benn fight back then 90 ish would be a good fight until Norris gets sparked out.
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    If I'd have been Norris s management, there's no way I'd put him in the same room with Benn, never mind share a ring!
     
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  13. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Terry Norris against Reggie Johnson could be interesting and a fight that he could perhaps win by using his speed. Not a guarantee though but still a fun match up. Sumbu Kalambay and Herol Graham as well.

    Terry Norris against Gerald McClellan would be an absolute slaughter for poor Norris though.
     
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  14. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    There’s a reason he never chose to move up - he was a big fish in a small pond and there was a big pond 6 lbs north that he could have swum in had he’d chosen to. But he would have drowned.

    If anyone feels like extending that metaphor any further, be my guest.
     
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  15. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I was always more curious as to why Norris was at 154 instead of 147. Norris at 160 was never anything that it seemed he should do.
     
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