How will boxing history remember Floyd Mayweather?

This is true.

I lol massively when people say he was better than Pea. A shot to **** Pea beat a young Oscar.

Castillo getting near Pea? No chance. :blood

 

Pea is an awful matchup for Floyd as well. Peas consistent jab from the southpaw stance stops Floyd doing too much, and then Pea would hassle him on the inside as well. Pea would start early too, one thing people omit: Floyd is a slow starter. On a real tough night it might not be four or five but six or seven round before he gets going, even at all.

Pea would stop Floyd ever getting the fight at his pace IMO. A clear points victory for Pea IMO. He was the greatest fighter from the past 25 years.

One spot behind Ray Leonard on my list, at 20 and 21 respectively. But I would argue with either of them being ranked from anywhere between 11 and 25.

 

He ranks on phenomenal talent, some very good wins and that win over Toney. But there are some who carried their greatness over even more years.

Him being the man in the sport for so long, the factthat at his best he was the best fighter I've ever seen (yes, the best) sees him firmly in the 41-45 camp. B-Hop is there too. Probably just above Roy, but both are closely matched IMO, for totally different reasons (Hop for consistency/longevity, Roy for dominance and being untouchable in his prime) and both have key signature wins.

Such different careers I wouldn't argue either way. But I'd have Hop just above him personally, just.

But prime for prime, say the Roy that Hop face first time with both hands Vs The Hop that was at his technical best Vs Tito, I'd favour Roy to win comprehensively.

At his best, I'd pick Hagler as the only middleweight to best him. And that's a toughie. Roy has the perfect style to counteract Monzon, even with his jab, ability to establish a rhythm and timing.

I don't dismiss Roy because of what happened post-Ruiz but I take into account all the same.

 

Whitacker vs Mayweather is hardly a dream fight though is it. talk about clash of styles.

 

Flea and TFFP, I don't want this to turn into a steroid debate but Jones Jnr the phenomenal athlete got caught red handed...

 

It'd be a drubbing IMO Rob.

 

It would be interesting. Pea would make it a reasonable fight because people always forget, he had output. More than Floyd. He was very consistent with his jab, consistent overall with his offense. Whereas Floyd's output has been patchy throughout his career.

 

Tell me which fight for and I'll take that win away for him.

Was he 'roiding at the Olympics? 'Roids didn't make him what he was, which was unbelievable.

 

Roids make you train longer and harder and recover better.

They don't explain Roy's gifts, not even close.

 

People also perceive Pea as a feather fisted stylist. The man is owner of some brutal stoppages and could fight in the pocket as well as anyone. Good beard to fall back on if he did get caught, and could fight as well as box.

As I say, he can beat Floyd with the jab and he can beat him up in general. Pretty indefensable IMO, Pea is just superior as well as a bad, bad matchup for Floyd.

Rob, I answered your hypothetical matchups by the way :good

 

For example, wasn't the main 'roid fight for Shane the 2nd Oscar fight? Supposedly anyway.

A fight he clearly lost IMO.

Back in the day, Gene Tunney was nearly killed by Harry Greb. They chucked adrenaline (or whatever) in his cut and gave him some gin to keep him going But that's levelled out by the fact he nearly died, surely?

Boxing has had it's shady moments no doubt, they happen. Should Floyd have not been DQ'd against Zab when his trainer came into the ring?

 

You missed Fegatilli though?

 

Agree about Pacquiao finding Floyd frustrating. I actually think it would be a very dull match. Floyd would cut down Pac's workrate, ala Marquez. And he'd probably back the smaller man up down the stretch with that exquisite right hand lead he throws. I can see Floyd winning as long as Pac doesn't hurt him in the early going.

Floyd is a slow starter at welter (seen against Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, Marquez and Mosley). But once he's on his game he's very difficult to beat.

 

:rofl Floyd KO 1 Fegatilli, Burns and Stephen Foster Jr. All fights combined would amount to less than one round :deal

 

yeh seen it mate enjoyed reading. post your 100 in the Choi thread so some ******s don't jump on it.

TFFP Roys gifts were largely physical though? He wasn't a craftsman like mayweather.