How will boxing history remember Floyd Mayweather?

I cant remember which rds, but ODH was working off the jab and backing Floyd up to the ropes and trying to land combos, and trying to ruff him up, there were moments when this would happen in the 1st half of the fight.

If ODH was a few years younger, i think it would of been a much closer fight.

 

Already put that in my most recent post. No its not maths its the sweet science and Floyds pretty good at it Flea. Bit over dramatic 'always critisiizes' no my issue is you put more emphasis on that with respect to talking about Floyd in your analysis as well as on other fighters. By that admission he must tick the other boxes. Dont get me wrong your knowledge is superb. Would still like to know your answer to my question at the end of my initial post

 

What question was that mate? On iPhone it's a ******* to keep moving around, re-post on this page and also, on Floyd, as I have said previously, he looks really good but considering he hasn't beaten many top level fighters with diverse approaches I can't validate him as one of the most skillful fighters I've ever seen :good

read through this threa if you have a chance I mightve addressed some of your queries already :good

 

Question to flea, dft etc that rightly bring up the holes in Mayweathers record- How much does his 'resume' improve fghting Manny? Does he have to win?

Yea ive read through its a good thread, need to catch up on others not been on here as regularly as id like

 

I still think he coasted some of the rounds against Pascal.

Regarding Hopkins doing things past his prime, I personally think Mayweather is past his prime since he returned after Hatton. I have noticed a deteriroration. When you and BB were talking about "if Hearns hit Mayweather like Mosley" i would say a prime Mosley doesn't get hit by those shots.

I agree Oscar was not at his best but he wasn't past it or a shell like some say.

Floyd is not everones cup of tea. You either love him or you hate him.

 

Dawg, as I've said it's what happens in the fight. If Floyd gets blown away early (close to 0% chance IMO) then obviously, I think people would sit up and think 'right that's the first opponent he has faced as good as he was'. If it's goes all 12 and Floyd has performed well, it's all down to the intricacies of the fight.

If he loses a fair decision, again, it would depend on the fight itself but his stock would rise a bit no doubt. He would've made a good account of himself against an ATG at the peak of his powers. It wouldn't mean he gets a free pass for the rest of his career and shoots into my top 50.

If he beats Pac convincingly (again all depends on what unfolds in the fight) then he would change my opinions on his all time great standing dramatically I imagine. I still doubt he has enough depth to surpass Manny outright, but that's not completely out of the question.

As I say though, quite hard to really answer IMO, hopefully I've covered as much ground as I can :good

 

It gives him a win over a prime elite-level fighter who's proved himself at Floyd's current weight and has serious credentials as the best fighter in the sport. Manny also brings speed and the southpaw stance, something Floyd isn't comfortable with, as well as decent pop.

I have huge respect for Floyd's skills and, in general, I think he's fantastic to watch. But it's hard to get excited by a guy who plays it so safe with the skillset he possesses.

 

That wasn't a prime Mosley either. As it stands, I wouldn't say Shane is an ATG either.

If his prime has ended what caused it? He hasn't exactly set a high pace when it comes to fighting, neither has he fought very often.

 

*i meant a prime Mayweathet btw

On the Iphone now. Watching Barca. This is the same pleasure i get from watching Mayweather.

 

Also Rob, Hop isn't just past his prime, he's past 45.

I can assure you, there really aren't that many fighters in history even being decent journeymen, let alone fighting the no.1 guy in a division and arguably deserving the decision. You think Floyd is already past his prime? With his style?

Hops has developed his craftiness over years and is still pulling it off agaist opposition he shouldn't be. You are essentially contradicting yourself with that. Coasting when you're 46 is acceptable. Late 20s/early 30s?

You have to look at every factor. As odd as a comparison it is, the fact that certain accusations I level at Floyd can also be levelled at Hopkins, no doubt. But it's the extentuating circumstances which lead this to be more favourable to Hopkins when ranking him, than it does for Floyd.

IMO :good

 

And how less brilliant they'd be if they won the Chamoions league by beating Aston Villa because they didn't join the one Utd, Arsenal and Ibter Milan were in.

 

2 ways of looking at it, if you can win by coasting as frustrating as it may be why exert yourself and risk getting caught? Or perhaps he ought to do more to please the paying public as they the ones who allow him to have the monicker 'Money'? Sweet Pea made people look silly but with his defensive genius and he mocked his opponents at times and won without having to do more than coast. Why cant Floyd?

BB- 2 x Castillo, Corrales, beating an undefeated Hatton, and despite the ODH win not being a great performance it was at 154 as well as other great names (admittably with advantages for PBF) in JMM and Mosely= good record, it aint great but his abilities and 0 losses considering the decent opposition is a good record. Manny by far and away would be the best fighter on anyones record right now or even in most cases their career amongst active fighters, is it fair to judge Floyd on whether or not he take that fight?

 

Fair points :good Can be flipped that we havent seen how Manny would react if he cant land his flurries on Floyd and havent seen him with as good a defensive fighter. All things considered it shows how essential this fight is, for both fighters.

Floyds got immense talent but can understand frustration with a few fights it woulda been good to see him in