How will Dirrell cope with the crowd?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by David UK, Oct 12, 2009.


  1. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    Listen that guy that caught Dirrell was faster than Froch and Dirrell wont be making that same mistake again. You learn from mistakes.

    Look at what Dirrell has done to his last 5 or 6 opponents despite how you see the opponent in terms of stiff competition.

    Hanshaw was a decent fighter and he finished off the job Roy Jones could not do.

    Your talking about Froch in this whole new light, he beat Taylor, so ****ing what, he is not going to beat Dirrell.

    Taylor in his match up with Pavlik the 1st fight should of been a routine defense but he did not finish the job on Pavlik in the same way he didn't finish the job on Froch.

    Froch is slow of hand and foot and he is robotic yet he beat Taylor, look at how Taylor fought Pavlik and then look at how he fought Froch. He stood right infront of both of them, giving them more of a chance to hit him.

    Dirrell will not be there to be hit, get that through your head.
     
  2. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    :good May the best man win...
    Its going to be a classic bust up...
     
  3. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think it's so much that it's intimidating...more that I think it could uncourage Dirrell to fight the wrong kind of fight.

    I'm guessing he's coming with a gameplan of hitting and moving. I'll Bet he abandons that after 3/4 rounds and gets dragged into Froch's war!!
     
  4. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are missing the point. If Froch gets beaten by an unknown in front of his home crowd, he has absoutely no chance of winning the whole tournament. He'd go from being a 6 to 1 bet to win it all to a 30 to 1 bet to win it all.

    Again, think before you accuse others of falling pray to your weaknesses.
     
  5. Solid Chin

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    Dude it didn't get to him, when he fought Stevens he applied the correct strategy.

    A fighter like Dirrell does not have to stand and trade with Stevens when he can just box his ears off.

    I appreciate the pure boxer, if you do then you wouldn't even bring up his HBO debut.

    Just because the crowd was booing doesn't mean he did not do his job. If anything he did a great job, **** the crowds booing, they just come to see somebody like Gatti fight, this is boxing, hit and dont be hit. People want to see people get hit and hit, Dirrell hits and tries not to get hit, its not a hard one to grasp. I dont see why a true boxing fan would come out with anything that would not highlight a boxer applying the right strategy to win a fight.

    Mayweather as much as his **** talking and his carefully picked opponents he gets the job done and he uses strategy and if you stick to what you are suppose to be doing instead of trying to be a crowd pleaser then you win fights.

    Now listen to my last point, the reason I think Dirrell will win this fight is because he was making his big HBO debut and he did not let the crowd phase him out, he stuck to a gameplan, so why the hell would he go all the way to Nottingham to please a Nottingham crowd, come on. The guy is going to go there and apply his strategy and stay focused and pull it off. If anything Froch will be the one more affected by the crowd.
    He will feel the need to make the fight whilst Dirrell will sit back and play the counter puncher.
     
  6. KingCobra

    KingCobra IBF World Champion Full Member

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    No you're missing the point. Dirrell may be an unknown now but if he does beat Froch and then goes on to win his next fight it would mitigate Froch's defeat at his hands, especially if Froch went on to win his next fight. Have you heard the expression styles make fights? It may just be that Dirrell's style is no good for Froch. It wouldn't necessarily make him any less of a fighter. As for Dirrell being an unknown, everybody is an unknown before they get their first big shot, it doesn't mean they're no good. I'm sorry I have to explain this to you in such painstaking detail :deal
     
  7. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

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    He''ll fold like a snowman in the heat.
     
  8. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sorry it's painstakeing for you to rattle off a few lines of utter nonsense. Ever heard of the word Panglossian? Well, it seems to me that that is the adjective that most accurately describes most English fight fans. Always a chance, a possibility...However, I'm certain most disspassionate fight fans would agree that if Froch loses to Dirrell his chances of winning the tournament are slim and none. A possibility? Sure. So is winning the lottery. But it probably won't happen.
     
  9. HitMAn76

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    I don´t think the crowd will effect Dirrell that much. He might be a little nervous before the fight, but when the bell rings its a fight like all other´s. I think its more important what the home crowd will do to Froch and im sure it can give him 5-10% more energy and will.
     
  10. KingCobra

    KingCobra IBF World Champion Full Member

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    I think most dispassionate fight fans would agree that if Froch loses to someone who turns out to be a remarkably good but as yet untested fighter it wouldn't ruin his career or necessarily affect his chances of success in future fights. If Kessler lost to the largely unproven Ward or Abraham was defeated by Jermain Taylor (who many believe to be shot) would it negate their future chances. No because informed fight fans would look upon this defeat as part of a bigger picture. Enlightened fight fans realise that a fighter can have an off night and as I said before styles make fights. Please enlighten me as to which parts of that assessment are "utter nonsense". Oh and have you heard the word dogmatic? I'd be surprised if you haven't since it describes your assertions rather accurately.