How will the heavyweight division become alive again in the eyes of some

Americans like 3G. Klits are boring, end of story. People like tough fighters.

 

white americans in general could root for a black american, or a western european white fighter. no way they root for a black fofeigner, or an eastern european. that is much of the reason boxing is basically dead in the united states.

 

:deal
I'd like to add this to the list.
3) Have regular exposure on TV here in the States

How can we expect there to be any buzz or interest about a heavyweight prospect or contender outside the boxing diehards, if #1 they never heard of them/seen them box,#2 those boxers were never given exposure and the chance to build a fanbase.

HBO seems to only have interest if it involves an American fighter. There should have been no reason for them to pass on the Fury/Chisora fight, with it being a title eliminator with two top 10 ranked fighters, and both of whom have personalities that can sell fights. Would have been far better then what we got with Jennings/Perez.

 

90% of americans have no idea who golovkin, nor any other boxer, even is. ask any random person on the street, you'll get a dumbfounded look.

 

Correct.
I'd say more American casual boxing fans know the K bros than GGG or most other foreign boxers just due to HW bias.

 

This, again and again :yep

 

2009- he waited through long negotiations vs Haye, and the time it took to fine a venue and promote the fight, only having Haye pulling out.. Also I believe Wlad hurt his left arm during the Chagaev fight( who subbed in for haye), which required time off. Watch the fights he didn't throw any left hooks.. I'm sure if you google it something would come up about the arm.

2010- he might have been able to squeeze a 3rd fight in, and I believe he was close with Chisora, although that might have been planned for the early part of 2011.

2011- He withdrew from Chisora fight with injury, and then re set up the Haye fight.. But no excuse he should have set up another fight before the year was out... Can't explain it

2012- 3 soft touches, one being a mando.

2013-Long, long, long negotiations with the forever hesitant Povetkin, lead to him taking on Pianteta and Povetkin a soft stay buys fight, followed by Povetkin's camp winning the purse bid, subsequently pushing the fight into October. Something Wladimir didn't want. Making a 3rd fight that yr highly unlikely

 

You're analysis is low grade crap, end of story.

GGG KOs opponents but fans who don't like the Russian-Korean say it's a weak MW div :-(

Same for K bros, people who are biased against them say they're "boring" and won in a weak HW era, despite the recent era being the first true world comp. And most of Ali's fights were just as boring as any modern HW bout, with or w/o the K bros. At 38 Ali was well past his sell by date :dead
At 38 Vitali was beating top HWs, same for late 30s Wlad :deal

 

Irrefutably correct,
but facts don't matter to the "oldie Murican HWs was da best" :blood crowd living in the past.

 

Im starting to think all americans dont know **** about boxing.

 

You've just outlined the two biggest issues that plague the division today. :good

 

Lewis was great and his accomplishments trump both Klitschko's combined accomplishments.

Silly to say when Fury is doing something today. Ruddock was surely leagues above Tyson Fury.

This where you are losing credibility showing bias. He is in no way comparable to Haye, he is leagues above Haye. Holyfield's resume and competition is far greater and it's amusing that anyone would even try to compare them.

Haye beat Valuev by a closer margin than Holyfield did, although we saw Holy robbed, winning that fight 9-3. Want to know how far gone Holyfield was in 2009 compared to the 80s and 90s?

lol...

We already have established that it was a deep era and he was
competitive in it.

Again, Fury, Chisora, Arreola and other 1 dimensional fighters with minimal athletic ability are ranked today.

Our eyes can see on film what they are capable of. If you cannot, then you should review your perception.

Nothing special compared to what? His chin was strong in his prime, he had versatile skills, hit hard and was good all around. You are saying nothing special in regard to Mercer, but sitting here and ignoring the fighters I listed out that were ranked -

Fury
Arreola
Haye
Stiverne
Pulev
Thompson

.... these guys are special? lol, come on...

An excellent LHW that had HW success and won the title. Beat Holyfield, who we know is great, not subjective, Holyfield was a great fighter.

Moorer had basic boxing skills that sloppy HWs today don't have, even though he was a small HW and didn't have the best chin. Still a solid fighter.

He isn't a great fighter, no. Era's usually only have a few. This era has none.

I forgot as well to add Riddick Bowe.

90s HW was very deep. Then mid 90s hit and Holy was still around, you had prime Golota come around even though he imploded, Tyson returned, Lewis was at peak and so on.

I named off the top of my head some of the top fighters.

What I do know from watching film is that the general crop of fighters was typically more athletic, more skilled and more versatile than what is offered up to us right now.

Our eyes don't lie.

The Soviet fighters not fighting in the division didn't weaken the division, there hasn't been a great Soviet HW yet, which why are we calling them Soviet? The Soviet Union fell in 91 and by the late 90s you started getting Eastern European fighters already.

There hasn't been an Eastern European ATG yet, but we may have one in the works with Golovkin and Kovalev is very special.

The Klitschko's are just good, with Vitali being the superior.

You want to say things like Haye and Holyfield are comparable and you lose all boxing knowledge credibility. Haye isn't even comparable to Michael Moorer as of yet.