How would 208 pound Holyfield do vs these 5

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder = Schools Wilder Holyfield has faced bigger and more skill men than Wilder and dealt with their power.

    Joshua = A bit more of a dangerous fight for Holyfield because Joshua has alot more skill than Wilder and also hits hard, Holyfield often liked to exchange punches and got himself in trouble vs Stewart, Cooper, and it backfired against the likes of Bowe. I think Joshua would have his moments and would rock Holyfield and possibly may even floor him, but i see Holyfield's better conditioning being a factor in the 2nd half of the fight and Holyfield wins a decision for me after some shaky moments early on.

    Fury = Again Fury has been troubled by smaller skillful boxers Usyk beat him convincingly on points, Cunningham floored Fury and was ahead on points. I think Holyfield using in an out movement firing off quick combinations could out point Fury over the distance, especially with his better gas tank down the stretch which is a big reason Usyk beat Fury also having the much better conditioning down the stretch.

    Usyk = Would be a close decision either way i know people like to bring up that Holyfield was 1-3 against Southpaws but that needs some context, Holyfield was seriously compromised vs Moorer in their 1st fight and that was more due to Holyfield's heart problems putting in a lackluster performance rather than struggling vs Moorer's Southpaw style. And his other 2 losses to Southpaws were when he was considerably past his best over the age of 40. But overall this really could go either way i wouldn't like to bet it on it honestly.

    Zhang = I don't think Zhang has the punch output or stamina to last with Holyfield down the stretch, this would be a repeat of Holyfield vs Foreman with Holyfield being too quick too mobile firing off quick combinations winning a wide points victory. Zhang's punch output makes even a 40+ year old Foreman look like a whirling dervish.
     
  2. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    The difference between Bowe and AJ is that Bowe was one of the best inside fighters of the time and it seems like him and Holyfield were the last to actually do it, granted it was not inside like how Frazier and Bonavena got down and certainly not like predecessors to them, but it was definitely more phone booth than the pseudo-inside fighting that was actually just close-mid range such as Tyson's pocket

    I think Holyfield would beat AJ to the punch every time, has far more technical mastery up close/inside and would be able to see a lot of AJ's punches coming and counter
     
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  3. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He might be able to beat Wilder and Zhang the other 3 will beat him.
     
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  4. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield beats them all, easy fights for him.
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Aj can't even fight on the inside and would struggle to keep Holyfield honest. I can see the other 2, but not aj
     
  6. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It'd be closer than Usyk and Fury if Holyfield can keep off the floor. AJs the smallest of the 3 but he hits the hardest.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes because aj has never been down and hurt. He can't fight in the pocket, he can't keep Holyfield off, He can't outpace Holyfield, i doubt he would even outbox him considering he couldn't outbox an ancient Povetkin over 6. Holyfield deals with him medium difficulty. Holyfield will get hurt once, that's all i can see
     
  8. Boxed Ears

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    It isn't just that I'd disagree that Holyfield would be too little if it came up, but that I'd actually laugh at someone who thought that he could be. Because it's so absurd.
     
  9. janitor

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    No he would not be too small, just as our current lineal champion wasn't.

    He would beat most or all of them, for the same reasons.
     
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  10. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield would pick up a loss ot two........or even 3

    1-2 vs Bowe, 0-2 vs Lewis, 1-1 vs Moorer, 1-1-1 vs Ruiz

    Throw in the Cooper debacle, 24 rounds with two Fossils, two tries vs Alex Stewart, Vaughn Bean , lol.

    Out of the abover 16 fights he only stopped Cooper and Moore, Stewart was a technical aka Headbutt TKO, went the distance in the rematch

    I know, Tyson Tyson Tyson Tyson Tyson......................................

    In real life Holyfiled was never ever consistant and in those real fights he would pick up losses.
     
  11. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, before he started over the hill against Bowe.
     
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  12. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    Lol
     
  13. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now give us a rundown of his opponents’ careers.

    This pre-roids Holyfield beats all five. Only Usyk & perhaps Fury would be especially competitive.
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    AJ smaller than Usyk???
     
  15. Totentanz.

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    Dick size matters in true competitive boxing.