How would 21st century training, nutrition 'n PEDs improved ATGs?

It doesn't improve technique or mentality or anything like that, so in that sense there would be no difference. I suppose it improves physical factors like stamina and speed, though.

Don't really see how you improve guys like Robinson in any kind of way, but perhaps it could be done. It is a mouth watering prospect to think so.

 

JG, I don't think it would have helped them one bit...

 

Boxing is a character sport first and a skills sport second. Athleticism is high on the ladder as well, but not as high as the first two. I'm not so sure that anything can improve a Robinson, Armstrong, prime Charles, or Burley. And Greb strikes me as a one in a million phenomenon. If anything, delaying their birth for sixty years would detract from their character -their willingness to suffer, their need to fight. Chances are EXCELLENT that none of them barring Greb would have even become fighters. They'd have went to college.

In my estimation, boxing points towards the past like no other sport and like few other human endeavors. It stands as one of the last bastions of chauvinism despite the blip on the screen that is women's boxing.

Its training techniques have a surprisingly old pedigree. The foundation of roadwork, isometrics, sparring, heavy bag and speed bag work remains strong. Everything else is supplemental. Pardon the pun.

And the verdict is out on how useful modern techniques are as applied to this particular sport anyway.

 

I reckon they could at least add a few inches with some of the rigorous jelqing routines you can get on the internet nowadays.

 

they coulda made the weight easier, thats about it

 

I'm not sure its fair to say all modern fighters use PEDs, some dont even supplement, supposedly FMj doesnt use supplements.

But either way they'd be faster, be able to fighter at a higher pace, keep their power/workrate into the later rounds, maintain concentration longer, be stronger, etc etc

A big difference is the reduction in bodyfat levels at the lower weights, supplements/peds make it easier to have a lower bodyfat.

 

Not in a million years, the best boxers havethe best skills for a reason

 

Knowing what we do now, I'd have to think that heavyweight fighters like Corbett wouldn't have purposely cut as much water weight as possible, for one.

 

Isn't it so that when we start playing ping pong with these scientific terms that we begin to think of the body as a rigid mechanism, waiting dormant on standby, ready to be tweaked by the finer details of 'new wave' nutrition and technology?

You need not convince Ted Spoon that particular methods can increase the efficiency of the respiratory system or that certain focuses on muscles may empower one with better stamina but to suggest that the true science behind fitness can and does improve any fighters which are subjected to such bluntly funnels all the intangible niceties of the best fighters into authoritative statements which miss the bigger picture.

The principle reason why so much of boxing has remained unchanged is because it remains invaluable to fighters. Men like Robinson, Monzon, Greb, the eccentric greats got to where they did through what they were about.

Many of the core exercises would do well to be bettered. A skipping rope, a medicine ball and, as Barry McGuigan would push for, some "top quality sparring" is just what the doctor ordered for every fighter.

It is the character of the fighter, the intuitive brain which makes those split-second decisions which carves out a career. The intangibility of boxing should never be imprisoned by the pleas for physical sciences regardless of their supposed or proven pros.

"Fighting is 90% in the head and 10% in the body"...Rocky had a point.

 

Ted Spoon, you sound like the bald spoon kid from the matrix

 

Your avatar is rude. If I were one of Gerald's sisters, I'd burn your house down.

 

I see no real difference in fighters training now to back in any era really.
Roadwork ,running is used for endurance and maybe now we have running machines but nothing much
Basic exercises press ups ,crunches sit ups are still the same
Bag work,heavy light ,speed ball focus mitts.You can see videos of Sugar Ray Robinson using them the same as Floyd
Sparring remains the same and a fighters basic skill level
Yes nutrition will help now with recovery and a greater understanding of protien/carbs
etc .The basics were known though
PED's.. thats the difference..could get Sugar Ray to 195 easy..Greb the same ..give most fighters Armstongs endurance,workrate..thats very simplistic but PED's can mimic the genetics of the very best..or go further