How would a prime Tommy Morisson and Ray Mercer stand up against Fury, Wilder, or Joshua?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mark ant, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    May 4, 2017
    I believe both of these 90`s fighters would lose against these current three, which one of them would have the best chance against these three and could either of them in their respective primes have been a champ during the current era?
  2. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 24, 2007
    I think Mercer would have beaten Wilder... Rays chin was world class. As for Aj and Fury I think they would have both beaten Ray And Tommy. Both would have had a punchers chance with Aj but that’s about it.
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    May 4, 2017
  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    Mercer had an iron chin and a world class jab. I'd pick him to beat all three. Fury would give him the toughest test though. The top three of today haven't really faced much for me to pick them over others yet. Fury w/ his size and agility is the only one who I'd say makes a good fight w/ anyone.
  5. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 26, 2009
    Ray Mercer was genuinely a decent fighter. I had him only losing by 1 point against a prime Lewis in a 10 rounder.

    So I definitely think a prime Mercer was capable of beating Wilder and AJ. You do need to tell me which versions of both. But in general his prime beats all versions of Wilder. He beats most versions of AJ too.

    I dont think Fury is a great match up for Mercer though if Fury is really prime.

    Other than the Pajkic and Firtha versions and earlier, it is clear wins for Fury. After his 23rd fight, every version of Fury is victorious other than Seferi, Pianeti and Schwarz.
  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    Tommy vs Wilder. Most likely Tommy via stoppage.
  7. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

    Jun 19, 2019
    Mercer V Wilder:
    At his absolute best I'd unconfidently pick Mercer to beat Wilder

    Mercer V Joshua:
    I think he loses a close MD against AJ

    Mercer V Fury
    I think he loses a competitive but clear decision to Fury.

    Morrison V Wilder:
    50/50 fight, but I think Wilder gets to him first and knocks him out cold.

    Morrison V Joshua:
    I think this would basically just be a Povetkin v AJ repeat

    Morrison V Fury:
    Fury has a few shaky moments,but survives and stops a tired Morrison
  8. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    I think Morrison would have a puncher's chance against both Wilder and AJ, and possibly a good one at that since Wilder is lacking in the skills department and AJ might have suspect whiskers. The fly in the ointment for Tommy is that both AJ and Wilder are huge punchers and his own chin has been smashed by lesser hitters. It'd be interesting seeing him against Fury. He's got a big punch and Fury does not. I'm guessing Fury uses his size and skill to ride out the early rounds and stop him mid to late. That said, I think if Tommy gets Fury into trouble he'll finish the job, unlike Wilder.

    Mercer I think would be Wilder's kryptonite. Wilder takes a few rounds to dial in the right hand, and Mercer would throw him off his game with his own power punching and jab, and of course, his great chin. I think Fury would be Mercer's kryptonite. Mercer has never had the fastest feet, and I foresee a boring type of UD where Ray plods after Fury eating endless potshots. Mercer / AJ would be interesting. If AJ tries to bomb him out, Mercer might well weather the storm, and if AJ gasses as he often does, it's going to be a repeat of Morrison/Mercer. Joshua's best bet would be to adopt the Ruiz 2 gameplan, and outpoint Mercer handily over the stretch.
    RacingBeat, Decker and The Real Lance like this.
  9. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Member Full Member

    Oct 22, 2020
    Morrison has a punchers chance, but I think he loses to all 3

    Depends what version of Mercer shows up. The Mercer at his peak probably discourages and stops Wilder, gives AJ and Fury good fights but loses decisions to both
  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

    Oct 16, 2019
    Mercer beats wilder but gets outboxed by fury and AJ.

    Morrison vs Wilder:winner is whoever lands first.
    Fury and AJ both stop Morrison
    The Senator and George Crowcroft like this.
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    With Mercer it depends which Mercer we see, the out of shape one who tried to bribe Ferguson loses to all of them but the one that gave Holyfield and Lewis very competitive fights would be dangerous.

    Against Joshua and Wilder his granite chin would negate their huge power and he'd always be a threat in spurts. Joshua would have to box and move like he did in the Ruiz rematch. I don't think Joshua can trade with Mercer like Lewis did because he couldn't set the pace Lewis did as he's never thrown as many punches as Lewis did in that fight and even if he could it could expose him to getting caught and hurt, if Ruiz Jr could upset Joshua then so could Mercer if Joshua makes the same mistakes. But overall I favour Joshua if he boxes.

    Wilder is going to struggle with Mercer, he's struggled with far inferior fighters. Wilder's usual, be out boxed and then land a huge bomb would probably backfire against a guy as durable as Mercer. Maybe Wilder's power can bail him out but there's a real chance it wouldn't. But Wilder could win simply because Mercer even at his best only fought in spurts. If Wilder can set a high pace he could out work Mercer over 12 rounds but the risk there is that much like in his earlier fights when he was more proactive he finds himself getting caught more and if Molina can rock him badly Mercer could KO him. 50/50 fight in my opinion, Wilder might be able to win a decision but maybe he get KTFO too.

    Fury I see out boxing Mercer. Mercer will no doubt have moments of success but I think Fury would win a comfortable decision.

    Morrison I wouldn't favour over any of them. Joshua is prone to getting hurt by left hands and Morrison does have a hell of a left hook, he could very well give Joshua some problems early but he eventually gets caught, probably by an uppercut and gets KO'd before he can KO Joshua.

    Wilder against may have some issues with Morrison. But I suspect he gets to Morrison first before Morrison can land a big left hook.

    Fury out boxes Morrison and then stops him.
    ForemanJab and The Real Lance like this.
  12. Decker

    Decker Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    Pretty much 6/6 and most of the other views are very similar.
  13. Jimmy Elders

    Jimmy Elders Ha ha bye bye intentional cuck banned Full Member

    Jul 31, 2020
    Fury beats them both but they both beat wilder and aj
  14. TFP

    TFP Member Full Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    *Unoriginal thoughts alert*

    I'd rate the Mercer who so narrowy lost to Lewis as a respectable say 40:60 shot against Fury, and favourite against the other two, strong favourite in Wilder's case.

    Tommy I don't think could beat Fury or even Joshua, maybe a narrow outsider against Wilder.
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2020
    Stiff Jab and The Real Lance like this.
  15. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

    May 8, 2014
    They both KO Wilder.