How would a scheduled 12-rounder between Lennox Lewis and Joe Frazier look?

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Goerge had a different style of fighting than the more cautious Lennox.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I agree, but a prime Rooney trained Tyson was more skilled than Joe.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    How would it look? Something like Frazier vs Foreman.

    I don’t see much chance of Frazier winning.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    when Lewis was in there with a treat, he usually was not cautious.
     
  5. mcvey

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    Why not? Give a valid reason why he couldn't.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Who did Frazier actually put down for the ten count?
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Lewis is 5 1/2" taller than Frazier and has a whopping 11" of reach on him. Tell how does he counter "every right hand" when so many will be thrown from distance. Also any that land can potentially bring about a fight ending sequence.
     
  8. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correct JT,
    and this is why we have to stop these ridiculous scenarios between what are in reality, Two Different Divisions...
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Lewis overall had a damn good chin. He got whooped when in dickhead mode and not acclimatized and walked into a sunday punch one other time when he might have been allowed to continue given what was at stake. He was dropped twice as a pro and stayed down once.

    https://ytcropper.com/cropped/II5e2da33b1aa7a
     
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  10. Mendoza

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    lennox’s right has more knock out power than joe’s left hook.

    Beyond that it was the right hand that knocked down or hurt Lewis not the left hook. Joe would have to get very close to land his left hook. I highly doubt Frazier could take much of what Lewis has to offer.

    Lewis was a smart fighter. If Frazier got close he’d hold him and put his weight down.

    This fantasy fight is a mis match. Frazier was too small and limited, only able to engage up close and only effective with one punch. And Frazier would really have to reach up there to land that one punch which probably was not hard enough to take Lewis out by itself.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Frazier’s best weight was 200-205. At 217 he was slower and lethargic. Is there a top 50 heavyweight today at 200-205? No and it’s been that way for 20 years.

    Some might say Usyk. He fought above that weight on fight night as a cruiser ( about 210 )Check his if the tape and then compare to Frazier. As a heavy Usyk is about the same size as Foreman.
     
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  12. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    we know that, but Weight is not what I'm referring too, the Modern HW is NOT a HW, it is in fact a whole other Division. these match ups are 'like' a MW fighting a HW, such is the disparity in in SIZE.

    Mendoza tried to emphasis that with the wight side of these Giants too, verse the Traditional Size HW, even the weight between the two statures is often 40 plus pounds.
     
  13. mcvey

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    I asked an easily answered question.
    Here is another . Is Frazier's hook on a par with Lewis' right hand?
     
  14. mcvey

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    To you
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Lewis was a good 20lbs heavier than Bugner, and he would be the same to Mathis, if Mathis had been in any kind of shape.