How would Ali beat Vlad?

yes of course it will and does it shows his speed and accuracy,what he is capbable of doing. Watch his 5 left hook powr punches he throws at Austin,i cant give you factual evidence anymore than using your own two eyes are you blind?:-(

 

Cite video clips, time stamps and arguments please.

 

Grabamir Klinchko can out-clinch anybody

I'm actually not sure if I would want to see this fight; if they both got the idea that they could wear each other down by clinching, this fight would be sweatier and gayer than a leather smoothie. :barf

 

Im not going to cite anything,you wont do it because you know it would shatter the Ali myth,i cant link on the site as the rules say I cant!You lucked out!:yep

 

Typical garbage debater. Makes ridiculous claims and is incapable to substantiate them.

There is no Ali myth. I cited you an example of Prime Ali knocking someone out with 11 punches in 3 seconds; Wlad's speed cannot match that.

 

What he fails to realize is Wlad was a very seasoned fighter/brawler if he had to be in a clinch,hit and holding if rough tactics called for it..ali would get mugged,add to that Wlad has a background in judo ...you can call him Grabimir to,the hard truth is Ali was a master himself at that while pulling on the neck,take that away and Frazier k.os him in the first fight.

 

So you are basically saying you are not only blind but dumb as a box of rocks of someone who doesn't know how to type letters to find certain vids?And who was this guy he k.od with 11 punches that he NEEDED to do so to?


P.S punching speed is not dictated to how MANY punches are thrown but who has the single faster punch! :yep


You don't even put Tyson over Frazier ,why am I even wasting time with you here?:-(

 

You made the claim that Wlad was comparable to Ali speed. Now the burden of proof is on you to substantiate your claims.

If I compare Ali and Wlad speed results, I find actual clips of Ali in the professional ring using speed, whereas all I get for Wlad is merely workout clips. Anyone can look fast in a workout.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wladimir+klitschko+speed

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=muhammad+ali+speed

As per usual, you've made a ridiculous claim and can't back it up.

Edit: Why would I put Tyson over Frazier? Tyson is lower than Ali. He never beat anyone of Frazier's competition caliber.

 

You are delusional and as stated above you think Frazier beats Tyson shows just how much you lack.If I could link you would be dead in the water.You cant see and think light combo punching is more relevant than a one two blistering combo that is like a cannon!

 

If you disagree with me, then post in the thread where I made my argument outlining how Tyson's caliber of competition was very weak in contrast to Frazier's. Anyone can look good if you stick them in front of mediocre fighters, even Frazier had early knockouts against bums. The best people Tyson fought, he lost against.

You're delusional if you think Tyson beat anyone great. He didn't. Frazier did.

 

I really don't think Ali could clinch with Wlad. Wlad is way bigger, more muscular, and taller.

But I like how Wlad gets slammed all the time for being the king of clinching (and I have to admit it makes for a sucky fight) until that aspect of his fighting style is inconvenient in a fantasy matchup.

You just can't win, lol

 

Exactly ..lol its like the other worm asking me to post or link when im not allowed here yet to do so,a bunch of winners here I can tell you. :yep

 

Ali is a black belt in Karate.

 

[quote=uncletermite;17381542]Fraziers prime was 67/71.Ali did not best Frazier at his best.Im not saying 74 Ali couldn't but he would have still struggled.If he is struggling with Frazier he is going to have a nightmare with Wlad regardless of different styles.Ali straight punch style is not going to trouble Wlad at all,its either going to be a mismatch of 12 rounds or a k.o mid rounds for Wlad,his Hook is not only more powerful but you cant see it coming because he throws it off the jab instantaneously.Ali would not k.o anything,unless Wlad was 5'11 205 pounds.[/quote]

And Frazier did not best Ali at his best, that would have been during the 3 and a half years he was denied the right to practise his living.

 

"he certainly is ever bit as fast punch for punch"
That's Punchy Termite's claim.atsch