How would Ali beat Vlad?

Haye looked fast against shot Ruiz and human statue Valuev.

He didn't look so fast against Wlad.

 

Wlad is extremely fast,you guys just cant see that or refuse to accept that!atsch

 

Yes, my point was that Wlad is faster than people give him credit for. atsch

 

Good lord[emoji30]

 

Not really your remark was insinuating because he looked fast against Ruiz and Valuev who were slow by calling them statues "YOU SAID THIS" but not against Wlad he must not be that fast after all....your the same guy telling me wlad wasn't fast!:-(

 

I didn't say Wlad was fast. I said Wlad isn't faster than Ali.

 

Regardless Haye and Wlad are faster than Ali at a true Hw weight...if anyone thinks a 215 or below Ali defeats Wlad they are delusional...Haye would be an even fight as he would be the first 6'3 guy to match speed with him,and hes also a power puncher as well who throws in combos and has better defense..Ali may have chin but its far from a mismatch as ppl wish to believe.Haye would not be a STATUE like most Ali fought.foreman lacked speed and defense,Haye has those two qualities.

 

210 pound Haye almost knocked Wlad out in the 12th round. And may have if Genaro Rodriguez hadn't allowed him lean all over Haye till he got his legs back.

Wlad never almost knocked Haye out and Haye was never holding onto to Wlad for dear life.

210 pound Haye and more ballz moving in on Wlad than visa a versa. Haye wanted to box . All Wlad could do was hold.

Wlad couldn't beat Haye without excessive back humping and couldn't avoid getting a point deducted for illegal holding in his home town.
The mans career his based on bending the rules so he can beat smaller , average skilled boxers who would pose no threat at all to any former title holders , never mind former ATGs.

 

corrected for you, after all your version made less sense.

and.....s'up Hwblogger

 

He almost knocked Wlad out in the 12 th round?


Even if he had he hits hard and you speak of the 12 round of Wlad walking him down for 12 rounds anyway!


Haye wouldn't last 3 rounds had he stayed in the center of the ring,you are delusional.Have fun with the ATG fantasy like most on here it doesn't relate to current reality.

 

What the hell are you on about. What sort of moronic b.ulls.hit are you spouting forth now?

 

Don't worry about it you wouldn't understand ,its about boxing not spam!:yep

 

One thing I do understand is that Ali in the modern age would wipe the floor with the likes of Wladimir Klitschko. I also know that Ali was so much faster than Wlad that a fight between them would be a mismatch.
You also need to understand that you keep making outlandish claims without the evidence to back them up and as soon as some challenges you all you can do is denigrate them.
If you wish to be taken seriously then give balanced, rational arguments with evidence to back up your points. At least then people can decide for themselves the veracity of your arguments. Until you fulfill these criteria then don't expect anyone to take you seriously on this forum.

 

your entire post is based on wishful thinking,mine is actual evidence of who fought who ,who lost ot who and actual real life abilities with physics/statistics thrown in there...Ali wouldn't even be his toughest opponent he was to easy to hit with jabs and hooks....many ppl agreed with me on this thread ,its you who are in denial not me!Give balance?Maybe if you didn't skip the entire thread and made claims based on nothing but the name Ali it would help your case not mine!:nut

 

Wlad was knackered by the 12th and thats why he got tagged and rocked.
Ask yourself how he was so tired by the 12th when he did nothing but throw a couple of single shot per round all night?

You don't understand the mediocrity thats on display , i do.

When you have to hold on for your life against 210 pound , glass chinned nobody , you're just not that great. Bottom line.