How would Ali beat Vlad?

Except those are LIVE fighters not impaired "WALKING DEAD" level ones.

 

you are forgetting age is not someones ability..sanders was a kind of tommy Morrison fighter always fought to his opponents capibilities and as stated Wlads was not the Wlad of today,and he didn't even train for a southpaw which indicates at his young age overlooked the extremely dangerous sanders...one only has tyo look at Sanders vs Vitali to see how good he really was when at his best.Sanders gave Vitali more trouble obviously tha Lewis did...do you guys really watch the FULL fights on these match ups?:shock:

 

you forget physics are thrown out the window on this forum of legends.:roll:

 

Always just a matter of time before Cleveland Williams is brought up, isn't it? That magical night in 1967 when Ali knocked out the second greatest heavyweight of all time in three rounds..absolute perfection. The only thing that could outshine that would be Vlad knocking out Williams in one round, which he would.

 

Agreed. Williams looked terrible. Good showcase fight for Ali but not much of an accomplishment, imo.

 

Okay, let me apologise if you think I called you silly. I like your posts but here I cannot agree that anyone (not just Wlad) can take out an iron-chinned fighter with one shot.
Now obviously the punch will land on Ali, as in a 12 or 15-rounder most types of punches will land at some point. But still, little cruiserweight Eddie Chambers took Wlad within seconds of the full distance before getting KO'd by a great left hook.

I simply cannot see why Ali cannot so likewise, but do much better? Even Wlad will need to land a corker of a shot to really get Ali's attention.
Jennings is another that is hardly a big man yet pretty comfortably went the full distance.
Not saying you, but many Klitschko fans have convinced themselves of Wlad's complete indistructability to the point where claims about him are made that don't really add up when one looks at the facts.

And how precise is Wlad really? I've seen him miss badly with the right hand several times in the same fight.
He has actually gotten good at grabbing a guy straight after a miss. And this is against flat-footed heavies standing right in front of him. Ali won't be such an easy target even if he stops moving. Ali had pretty good head movement and a decent radar so does it spell disaster if he stops moving? Not necessarily.

As far as I can tell, you and most Klitschko fans base the argument that Wlad is bigger than his opponent and therefor must win.
Ali was a good-sized heavyweight with surprising strength. He was also likely the fastest heavyweight of all. To dismiss that simply because he's outweighed is a mistake in my opinion.

 

Physical capabilities decrease with age. Do you deny a scientific fact? Surely you don't think Sanders was prime at nearly 40?
Against Vitali he won 1 round and that was all. Maybe 2 at a stretch. No, Lennox did much better than Sanders. The state of Vitali's face afterwards kind of alludes to that.

I've never bought the usual excuses trotted out for the Sanders loss because they don't add up.
Wlad was not unprepared. He looked in fantastic shape as always. He was defending his WBO title. There were talks of a fight with Lewis in the not-too-distant future.
He had lost before and thus knew the bitter pill of defeat. Why chance it?

Do you honestly think that Wlad would risk losing potentially millions upon millions in a possible Lewis fight because...oh he didn't feel up for training very hard.
It just doesn't add up when you look back at his career and cannot point out even one fight where he has looked out of shape or unmotivated.
It just doesn't wash.

The more obvious explanation is that he could not deal with Sanders' speed. I will concede that the southpaw style probably threw a spanner in the works but Wlad had an extensive amateur career and was not an inexperienced professional. I'm certain that Sanders'southpaw style was not THAT alien to him.

Anyway...speed. Yeah. That component Ali had in spades. I see Wlad having great difficulty coping with it.

 

this man is brilliant deal:deal

 

Rahman, Thompson and Mormeck 'live' fighters are you having a laugh? These guys were pretty mediocre at their best and to make out that the aged versions of them were a fair match up is stretching credulity!

 

I must be missing something with Wlad. I'm reading on here he has great speed and skill? I give him his due, he's the fastest and most skilful unit in an age of big robots,everything's relative.
At the end of the day though he's still a big mechanical robot and there's no way a fighter of that I'll beats Ali, you need much more than that, oh sorry he's big.

 

Well put Cecil. This big is better argument just doesnt wash. Talent and skill are far more important and size only has a factor to play. Ali had the ability to adapt to the styles he faced as well as the toughness and determination to hang in when things got hard. To beat the range of champions that he did was remarkable and a testament to this adaptability.

 

You're the one who says Cleveland Williams was in his prime in1956..

 

I guess Ali would win by hitting him.................... a lot

 

If Wlad really beat Williamson , ask yourself why Sleep got the shot against Byrd instead of Wlad?

Because the IBF federation saw that Wlad pulled a disgraceful quit job and got a bogus victory thus deciding not to rank him above Williamson.

Instead he filed a law suit so he wouldn't have to face Williamson again. He wanted no part of Williamson anymore since the style was al wrong for him. Imagine how pityful Wlad would look against the real Ali after he couldn't even go more than 4 rounds against a cheap intimation version of Ali.