How would Ali beat Vlad?

Wlads entire boxing construct is designed to keep opponents away from him, not the other way around.

Ali gets all the room and space he wants from Wlad. Allowing him to skip , hop , dance , fiddle , pepper , cheese him off all night long.

You don't understand Wlad at all and as per usual when it comes to Wlad fanatics you see a version of him that don't exist.
I see the real Klitschko , not you.

 

Funny that Wlad/Lewis and foreman all exceed in their late 30's ...depite that not everyone ages the same so not sure why you think science is invlolved here...tha only FACT is sanders fought the best fight of his life when he stepped it up and actually trained for Vitali.Their is no probably ,Wlad didn't spar any southpaws in camp prior to sanders,almost anyone would've lost that fight doing such foolish things.


Wlad is on youtube showcasing his speed,hes even thrown 5 power left hooks in under 2 seconds so your theory is busted right there with Ali being to fast for Wlad who was a better measurer of distance anyway,watching many of alis fights he wasn't nearly as accurate as one likes to think,one can see its on video footage.

you even said Lewis did better than Sanders which is a blatantly false,no one who watches the FULL fight would ever agree,lewis wasn't even close to doing anything,he won one round in reality and was getting battered and out boxed later.Sanders rocked Vitali much more than Lewis was able to do.

How is the southpaw style not alien to ANY boxer since they rarly fight them?Even the weakest champ moorer of the 90's era gave Holyfield one of the greatest headaches weather his health was a factor or not,only in the rematch did holy embarrass him.

 

Williams prime is late 50's early 60's I gave no such number however his prime would be about 1956 to early 60's.The fact he was an old man in terms of skill and health by 66 and the last live opponent he fought before ali was in 1964 against sonny Banks...McLIAR do your research,wheres suzy?

 

Then why did slow average guys like 6'0 200 pounder Folley who won the first two rounds and tagged him with jabs and straight right be able to catch him,how did the extreme weak puncher and slow fighter Mildenberger tag him to the point where the announcers said ali looks concerned?You are trying to sell tiny 190/200 pounders who hit him easily ,yet a 6'6 giant with speed and power is not capable of this feat?:nut

 

I know they were 100% heathy are you telling me the impaired Williams beats any of those guys Wlad fought?:roll:

 

Is that the latest excuse. Over ten years later and Wladturds are finding new reasons to excuse the loss?

Do you expect people to believe a seasoned professional and world champion would hire a camp full of orthodox boxers in preparation for a southpaw??:nut

And its not like Sanders was some slick Rigondeaux type southpaw. He came in square and fought wide open most of the time.

Give me the showcase? Do yo mean the Ray Austin fight?

There was only one proper hook delivered in that succession.

And Ray Austin was a joke of a Heavyweight. Hobo's have better technique than him.
Austin couldn't even beat Harold Sconiers.
Wilder beat Sconiers years ago when his record was regarded as a total embarrassment.
SO this guy who lost to Sconiers is meant to provide a showcase of Wlads talent??:rofl

Wlad nutters don't have very high standards do they?

 

You simply need another sport to observe maybe even a new one to follow!atsch

 

You did actually, you said:
" ten year past prime handicapper " .

 

Pass
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It was remarkable, and Ali had exceptional abilities to adapt. There is no need for me to diss him to pick Wlad to win. Nor does it mean I think Wlad is unbeatable because I'm favoring him here. Nobody is unbeatable.

Had the fights never actually happened, I have no doubts that people would simply favor Ali to defeat and destroy fighters who troubled and beat him. Nobody would've picked Norton, especially in a fantasy match today. It'd be Ali by KO by an overwhelming margin.

Heck, in real life, he was close to even money on the betting lines against Holmes by fight night. Predictably, you had tons of people who picked Ali who hated Holmes for beating a sick, old man and say he shouldn't have been licensed.

 

Ten years is not a number as clearly it could be any year in between regardless only a fool would contradict his own statement like you continually do on here,challenging that in the late 50's he wasn't in his prime,yet somehow a 1966 version of Williams shows Alis greatness in your fantasy land?.:good

 

Nobody on here thinks Ali's win over Williams is significant in regards to his legacy.
People know that Williams was way past his best, the reason the fight is highlighted is because it's a showcase for Ali's remarkable athleticism,speed, skill and no little power.
Could any heavyweight ever have put on such a display?
I'm sorry I like Wlad, he would be a problem for any heavyweight champion, but I think a prime time Ali would simply box the robotic Wlad's head off and even stop him late.
I think the fight's a stylistic nightmare for Wlad.

 

Well you are wrong,Mcliar is the one who used Williams to showcase alis skills.He couldn't even differentiate that because he was 33 that doesn't mean hes still in his prime,he clearly wasn't.Hes the common imbecile who thinks prime is dicated to age.


On the post itself...Wlad is anything but robotic as all the guys he defeated have found out,.As stated video footage doesn't lie and Ali may look great in video clips but the entirey of his fights tells another story.Who wins is obviously an opinion,however I'll take the better jabber /power puncher over the guy who eats left hooks and gets flustered with jabs.

 

uote=Cecil;17376082]Nobody on here thinks Ali's win over Williams is significant in regards to his legacy.
People know that Williams was way past his best, the reason the fight is highlighted is because it's a showcase for Ali's remarkable athleticism,speed, skill and no little power.
Could any heavyweight ever have put on such a display?
I'm sorry I like Wlad, he would be a problem for any heavyweight champion, but I think a prime time Ali would simply box the robotic Wlad's head off and even stop him late.
I think the fight's a stylistic nightmare for Wlad.[/quote]

Exactly.I used the Wiliams fight to illustrate Ali's handspeed anyone with a modicum of sense can grasp that.
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Mcliar you clearly used and reference alis abilities againt a slow impaired Williams and you continue to do so just by even showcasing his handspeed with a slow immobile fighter,and now throw others quotes to confuse your mistakes.