How would Bernard Hopkins do against the following fighters at 160?

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  1. EARL

    EARL Active Member Full Member

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    Mike McCallum

    Tommy Hearns

    Gerald McClellan

    Michael Nunn

    Nino Benvenuti

    Dick Tiger

    Reggie Johnson

    Rodrigo Valdez
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    Neither of them "rip off Hopkins's head". Hopkins is not an easy guy to tag cleanly, and has a good chin as well.

    Hearns might win, as his outside skills are hard for anyone to overcome, but G-Man loses to Hopkins.
     
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    I need to watch more of Tiger and Valdez to make an accurate assumption of them. I would pick Hopkins over the others, although Hearns might beat him and Nunn would give Hopkins problems as well.

    Hopkins-McCallum is interesting. Mike was better @ 154 though.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    Good thread.

    Mike McCallum- I am of the mind that, while McCallum was still great at 160, he was at his best at 154, and that, while an excellent technical, versatile boxer, he's facing a naturally bigger, probably stronger one as well in Hopkins. I'd take Hopkins to win a close Decision in a fantastic fight, great technical affair.

    Tommy Hearns- Forgive me if I underrate Hearns at 160 and above, due to durability reasons, but even though it's very possible he could outbox Hopkins, part of me thinks Hopkins would look to put the pressure on Hearns and wear him down late, or just rough him up enough to win the inside battle and win on points.

    Gerald McClellan- Hopkins is too skilled technically for G-Man, despite the power. Decision win, wide.

    Michael Nunn- I'll have to think about this one. It's very possible that this is the bad style matchup for B-Hop of the group.

    Nino Benvenuti- Benvenuti was a good boxer, very good, but has some questionable decision wins over the course of his career due to biased judging in his favor, and while a skilled, tough overall boxer, he doesn't have the skills of a Hopkins. I see Hopkins clearly taking this.

    Dick Tiger- Hopkins better be prepared to fight on the move, and I think he would, and has shown the ability to. I'd take him to outbox Tiger in a similar manner to how Griffith did.

    Reggie Johnson- Good puncher, underrated fighter at his best, and it could be a rough fight for Hopkins at times, but again, I don't think Johnson poses any great stylistic advantages.

    Rodrigo Valdez- This would be on the level of the last two bouts. A very good in-fighter and banger, but I wouldn't say he's versatile enough on the outside to box with Hopkins, and Hopkins was a master of gameplans.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    Those are two he clearly beats in my opinion, Hearns having the better chance due to his far superior boxing skills(in comparison to G-Man). McClellan has little chance in this one the way I see it.
     
  6. brooklyn1550

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    Mike McCallum: Hopkins UD

    Tommy Hearns: Hopkins UD

    Gerald McClellan: Hopkins UD

    Michael Nunn: Nunn SD (honestly, I still have to think about this)

    Nino Benvenuti: Hopkins UD

    Dick Tiger: Hopkins UD

    Reggie Johnson: Hopkins UD

    Rodrigo Valdez: Hopkins UD
     
  7. EARL

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    I have a really hard time seeing Hopkins outpointing Hearns. If he's gonna beat Hearns I think he'd have to stop him.
     
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    I think Hopkins could pile up more rounds than Hearns by making him fight in close. That's where he would have a big advantage. From long-range, Hearns bests him.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    You don't have to neccessarily "outpoint" someone to win a Decision. If the fight is strictly on the outside, Hearns likely wins. I think Hopkins would put the pressure on him, taking him out of his game, and win the decision based on effective aggression. A much lesser skilled fighter in Barkley was able to do the same.
     
  10. booradley

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    Good thread. As much as I like Tommy Hearns I think Hopkins would turn this into an ugly brawl, and pretty much take away Hearns' biggest advantages.

    Boo
     
  11. EARL

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    That's the thing though, as good as Hopkins was at making people fight his fight, I don't think he'd have such an easy time doing so against Hearns. Especially seeing that Hopkins has trouble with jabbers, and top that off with the power that Hearns possessed even at 160. I think Hearns would be making it an outside fight and Hopkins would have to work to make it an inside fight.
     
  12. EARL

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    Barkley was successful in doing so, albeit against a faded version.
     
  13. Amsterdam

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    Hopkins close UD McCallum

    Hopkins KO 8 Thomas Hearns

    Hopkins wide UD McCllelan

    Nunn close UD Hopkins

    Hopkins wide UD Benevuti

    Hopkins wide UD Tiger

    Hopkins close UD Johnson

    Hopkins wide UD Valdez
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    What does Johnson offer stylistically that Valdez doesn't?
     
  15. brownpimp88

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    Nunn's faster, more athletic and the superior slick boxer with better handspeed. He beats hopkins and i wouldnt have any doubts about it. I guess hopkins can get lucky and ko him if he gets sloppy, but other than that its nunn all the way.