How would Calzaghe do against previous and current champs?

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  1. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I would have to nominate Critic, here.
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Calzaghe vs

    Wladimir K Loss UD
    Vitali Loss KO2
    Haye Loss
    Adamek Win KO -1
    Mayweather Loss UD
    Bute Win UD
    Froch Win SD

    :think
     
  3. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He would propably beat Kessler and Froch.

    One Thing is for sure thou. This FRAUD from Wales would not fight Ward, Dirrel or Bute. Calzaghe would be once again in chains at his backyard fighting Rick ThornBerries.:shock::lol:
     
  4. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Bute would KO him, ward would win UD .
     
  5. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    Calzaghe vs

    Thomas Hearns- Tommy was not the same fighter at 168. Calzaghe was at his absolute best here.


    SRL - Same as Hearns. Of course both Tommy and Ray are greater P4P, but not at 168.

    Hagler- Both have iron chins, so there's no chance of a KO. No idea how Hagler would fare at 168, as this is Joe's prime weight class I'll take Calzaghe UD or SD.


    James Toney - I think Calzaghe's work-rate would cause Toney fits, Joe wins a UD here, especially against the Toney that fought Roy Jones Jr.

    RJJ - Provided it's a clean RJJ not on Anabolic steroids, this one is so close it's too tough to call. RJJ UD or Calzaghe KO.


    Hopkins - We've already seen Calzaghe v Hopkins, so I'll take Joe by a UD or SD again.

    Duran - seriously!?


    Bute - Joe would figure out Bute and win a UD or maybe get a late KO.


    Ward - After RJJ, the hardest fight for Joe. I think Joe's work-rate, use of angles would confuse Ward, and Ward will tire in the later rounds as against Froch, whereas Joe was relentless for 12 rounds. Therefore I would pick Joe to win a UD/SD
     
  6. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    brr, well Cal never faced prime greats or prime legends. Though he is unbeaten against journeymen, contenders and shot legends, there is no blueprint for saying he could beat top fighters, because he ever did.

    The other side of this is that these opponents DID take on prime legends and win, so they hold the upper hand P2P ie they would all thrash Cal P4P. Sadly, the legends selected are all much lower weight class than Cal, its like putting Sugar Ray in the ring with Ali. Theses no basis for it., its unfair and just plain stupid.

    Having said that some of them do have such legendary ability that they could overcome bth Cal and the weight difference.

    Thomas Hearns - Hearns obv superior P2P but giving away too much weight so its 50:50

    SRL - SRL way more skill and fitness than Cal. Leonard genuinely hits far more often, and is way yoo fast to get hit by Cal, and way too tough a chin if he did get hit.

    Hagler - Hagler KO Cal early on, Cal cannot cope with Haglers KO force and cannotrun as fast as SRL, nor can he hurt Hagler in anyway. Cals best chance would be to do the maxslap attack on Haglers arms and shoulders and try and con a win the way he does, and also wait till Hagler was 40 and also fight him in Wales where the judges save him. That might do it.

    James Toney - 50:50

    RJJ - Jones would destroy Calzaghe of course! Theres no other way that can work.


    Hopkins - basically how their real fight went but without Hopkins being outpaced and outgassed, so Jopkins would take the SD.

    Duran - Duran too light, Cal takes it

    Bute - Cal probably decidion Bute, but would hit the floor once or twice on the way

    Ward - 50:50, but the evidence is increasingly for a Ward win. Its pity Cal ran away from the SMW division just as it was getting some decent contenders, this fight should really hav happened but Joe wanted to stay unbeaten so fair play to him.

    So overall for Cal, 2 wins, 2 either way or draws, 5 losses. Thats the most accurate interpretation, given that Cal never beat the best or legends but some of these others DID beat several legends.

    If you put more lesser fighters on this list then yes Calzaghe would have more wins, but there is categorically and undeniably no blueprint for him beating legends.
     
  7. Brownies

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    I'm a Bute fan and there's no way he would have win against Calzaghe. Not the same caliber of competitors. Calzaghe wanted to win more than most boxers I've seen.
     
  8. Ren

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    whislt I think Bute might well floor Calzaghe more than once, Cal would probably get up. ANd then what? I am not sure how Bute can beat Cal's slap attack points winning method, Cal would take a SD.

    Also Bute would have to fight in Wales othrwise the fight would not happen, so he is also losing his home advantage and subjecting himself to Cal's biased Welsh refs.They will likely rule Butes' knockdowns of Cal as slips, so he loses those points too. The welsh refs will also likely stop the fight when Cal is slapping Bute's wrists and arms fifty times a round at some point in the fight, so he can lose to a' false' TKO too.

    So you see, its just not going to happen, he is not going to win. Not unless he knocks Joe out cold, which just doesnt happen to Joe Calzaghe.
     
  9. vnyc

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    Liver shot !
     
  10. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    lol, well theres cheating too.

    You see, Joe Calzaghe got dropped by ordinary fighters and 40somethings, so hes very floorable against someone who can hit him hard like. Thats why its obvious to me he'd never beat a hard hitting legend like Hagler. He'd get floored and get up, but he would keep getting floored., and Hagler would ignore his slaps completely and just wade in for another knockdown.

    From what I have seen (admittedly not much) Bute just isnt fast and dangerous enough to knock Joe over more than two or three times in a fight, and Joe can still win a SD with his Welsh buddies judging the fight even if he gets floored. Bute himself can never be knocked down by Joe's slaps.

    Bute's best chance v Calzaghe is in Canada, there he would be 50:50 against him. But as I outlined, Joe would be too scared to fight there.

    I may be a Brit(**** lol) but I am not biased, its literally horribly biased and stupid (or Welsh, not that the Welsh are stupid) to pretend he could beat all these fighters when Cal never beat one legend in his whole career. But yeah I can see why Welsh people are so biased and blind about Joe, they need a hero on the world stage. Pity Joe's English then.
     
  11. RedDragonBoxing

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    Thomas Hearns : Calzaghe via UD, Hearns was a great puncher but at this weight against a larger opponent Joe picks him off and wins
    SRL: Speed V Speed, Calzaghe beats him via UD
    Hagler: Calzaghe UD, same way leonard beat him
    James Toney: Calzaghe wins convincingly
    RJJ: Close UD either way
    Hopkins: Rough fight, Calzaghe wins a close decision
    Duran: Calzaghe by TKO/UD
    Bute: Calzaghe UD
    Ward: Calzaghe UD
     
  12. Bobo

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    This is a joke. nobody can **** with Calzaghe. beating ATGs like Mario Veit and Mikkel Kessler are the greatest achievements of any fighter in the history of the sport. Fists of steel, speed of lightning, strength of a tiger, the GOAT. :deal
     
  13. AnotherFan

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    :lol:
     
  14. JMP

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    He goes 5-4
     
  15. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Calzaghe-Hagler would make CompuBox folks earn their damn money.

    Hagler late TKO or Calzaghe UD.