How would Calzaghe do against these fighters?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What if Calzaghe had fought the following fighters in the 90s:

    Nigel Benn
    Michael Watson
    Steve Collins
    Gerald McClellan
    Frankie Liles
     
  2. SLEDGE

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    Would have had some bother with mcclellan but i think he would have won after he had to get up off the floor.

    The rest I see him completely out boxing them with his superior speed and accuracy.
     
  3. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vs benn would be intresting. Edge towards joe. Watson would be good fight in his prime. Gman would ko him. The rest he beats
     
  4. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He dont hav the power to keep gman off him. Late ko
     
  5. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe was in a different class to those guys, he beats them all comfortably.

    The fights I wonder about are RJJ, Hopkins and Toney when these guys were top of their game. I think all beat Joe but I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled off a win here or there.
     
  6. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I think his biggest problems are with Benn and McClellan.. I can see either catching him and being able to finish him when he was hurt.. If he lasts the first 6 rounds with G-Man, Calzaghe turns up the pace and wins a clear but hard fought UD. I think he can outwork Benn 7 times out of 10.

    Steve Collins would have been an exciting fight with Calzaghe winning.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I can't see how he'd have had an easy time with Frankie Liles. Liles was gifted and was a huge southpaw. Did Joe ever fight a good southpaw, or even any southpaw?
     
  8. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    He did fight a few very early in his career..

    Not world class.

    I always wanted to see Joe fight an elite southpaw. Does that say anything to you about adversity? I know there were no elite southpaws calling Joe out.
     
  9. Inspector

    Inspector Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would give a prime and nasty Benn a chance against any fighter - even Super Joe. One of my favourite fighters ever, if not number 1.
     
  10. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nigel Benn: Calzaghe gets rocked many times with the short counter overarm right and at some point taken out. Benn, knockout.


    Michael Watson: Watson would block Calzaghe's slaps and counter in clusters. If Calzaghe tried peppering spearing right jabs and tight left uppercuts from mid-range to the inner gap, Watson would counter him with the short counter overarm right and hurt him, possibly taking him. Either way, it's Watson.


    Steve Collins: Collins had a very effective short counter overarm right which would find Calzaghe's chin frequently and allow Collins to grind him down, coming in from awkward angles and punching with Calzaghe in clinches. Collins, most likely points.


    Gerald McClellan: McClellan would circle Calzaghe, jab to the body and head, take some slappy straights from Calzaghe as he moves away with his hands down, but ultimately be able to time the lead overarm right onto the side of the head of Calzaghe and follow it up with a left hook to the body to keep Calzaghe down. McClellan, knockout.


    Frankie Liles: Liles is thoroughly out-classed in-close and hurt there, and out-worked in general. Calzaghe for sure, points most likely.
     
  11. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He must've fought quite a few in the amateurs, I saw him whoop a pretty decent one (can't remember the guy's name), and seeing as he won his last 53 fights in the ams, I'm sure he must have beaten his fair share of them along the way. He fought at least three of them earlier on in his professional career too, easily stopping all of them in a few rounds.

    He first defence of his WBO title came against one, Branco Sobot (TKO3), and he also fought an American one named Anthony Brooks (TKO2). Brooks had lost a MD to a young Glen Johnson earlier on in his career and lasted the distance against Daniel Perez (Perez is the guy who came over to the UK to mount a challenge for Nigel Benn's WBC super-middleweight crown, losing in seven rounds, although he did hurt Benn briefly).

    He also blasted a tricky southpaw named Trevor Ambrose out as well (TKO2). Ambrose lasted the distance against some decent fighters (Sugar Boy Malinga and Neville Brown being two of the most notable - obviously Malinga wasn't a big puncher though), and scored a couple of upsets along the way. He also gave Robin Reid all he could handle before getting caught and stopped by a massive right hand in the 5th. He was winning the fight up until that point and he caught Reid with some big shots himself.

    Brooks is the guy at the 00:10 mark of this video.

    Ambrose shortly before at the 00:05 mark.

    Sobot is the guy he drops with a sweet left uppercut at the 01:46 mark

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    Ambrose vs Reid (great finish by Reid this. Check out the slow motion replay at the end).

    Ambrose is fighting orthodox is this fight though (not all the rounds were broadcast though). He was fighting from the orthodox stance in most of the clips I saw but he is listed as a southpaw on Boxrec. I know he used to switch between stances sometimes. I have one of his fights where he switches between the two.

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    Calzaghe was all set to fight southpaw Brian Magee over in Belfast too until the WBO insisted at the last minute that he defend against mandatory challenger Mario Veit instead. Both Joe and Magee had trained for that fight. Joe would've been stripped if he hadn't gone through with it.

    ''Joe Calzaghe's WBO super-middleweight defence against Brian Magee in Belfast on Friday has been cancelled.

    The WBO has stopped the fight because of a rule which prohibits a champion from fighting less than 60 days before an enforced mandatory defence.

    Calzaghe was last month ordered to fight number one contender Mario Veit in Germany on 7 May.

    Veit's promoters protested over the Welshman's match against Magee, and the WBO has accepted their complaint.

    Calzaghe's promoter Frank Warr-en told BBC Sport he had been led to believe that Veit's promoters were happy for Friday's fight to go ahead because the bout in Germany would be re-scheduled for June.

    "But late last night I got a fax from [Veit promoters] saying that ZDF, the German broadcaster, were refusing Joe to fight in the interim because they had no other date other than 7 May for the Veit fight," said Warr-en.

    "I'm annoyed but more importantly Joe, Brian Magee, the supporters were expecting a great fight.

    "Joe's trained very hard for the fight and for once there were no injuries, and now this happens at the last minute.''

    And I'm pretty sure negotiations had taken place between Frank Warr-en and Tarver's people about setting up a clash on at least one occasion. I think it was sometime not too long before Hopkins beat Tarver.
     
  13. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benn could take him on a good night. Rest lose comfortably.
     
  14. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Serge,

    That was some good info you provided, many things I did not know..

    How many times have you got to see Joe fight live?
     
  15. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    First time I saw Calzaghe, he was peppered with right hands against Anthony McFadden in a four-nations amateur thing in Newport in '89. Calzaghe looked ****. McFadden couldn't miss with the right hand.