How would Calzaghe do in this SMW era?

Nothing sad about it son. Joe like most people with intelligence realises America is only useful for one thing, DOLLARS!! When the dollars were right ( Hopkins, and Jones ) he went and picked them up. Once that country was of no further use to him, he didn't bother going there.

 

So why didn't he go eariler if the States was all about dollars and Joe said he fights so he never has to work again? My guess is he knew his limitations and probably felt he'd pick up a loss so stayed home and defended his paper belt for 10 years.

 

Calzaghe would've excelled. Definitely would've beat Froch but I think he'd really struggle against Ward. He struggled against a far older version of Ward (Hopkins) actually. And I think his lack of power would hurt him against Dre. Think he's take a loss there.

 

What part of " When the dollars were right " are you having trouble understanding? It was easier for him to beat your bums, in his own back yard for the same money.

The only worthwhile dollars were for Hopkins and Jones.

 

Too bad he didn't catch them earlier.

 

Going to America and winning legit smw/lhw belts in in under half the time it took him to do it at home would of brought him greater wealth.
What cant you understand about that?

 

I can't see how Calzaghe Ward would be a close fight:

Height: Ward
Reach: Calzaghe
Speed: Calzaghe
Stamina: Calzaghe
Chin: Calzaghe
Power: Calzaghe (if it's the version with intact hands we're comparing)

If Andre has to do it naturally (i.e. without Victor Conte in his camp), I don't see how he competes unless it's all down to home cooked headbutts. Seeing as Calzaghe beat Hopkins (who probably should have been forced to wear a glove on his head during most of his career), such a strategy would be unlikely to work.

 

Who couldn't Calslappy beat? I know he wins all hypothetical match ups against anyone from 160-175 ever, but honestly a guy considered this "great" should probably be mentioned in the top 5 fighters of all time. Being the best 168lber is even up for debate with RJJ and now Ward, unless you live across the pond. Furthermore who has a better resume than him? Is that even possible? Again, I understand the level of fanboyism and dickriding is at an all time high with Cokeslappy considering he is basically all you guys have really. The sad reality of the Slappy Joe saga is that his ******** fanboys are more worried about his legacy and place in history than he EVER was!!!!

 

Andre "Mystery Victor Conte Supplement" Ward...
Roy Jones "Androstenedione" Junior...
James "Stanozolone" Toney...
Bernard "Barry Bonds HGH Head" Hopkins...
everyone can throw silly names about.

 

He would be so dominant the division would look even weaker.
Consider that Ward who is the current champ struggled with Froch.
Kessler when past best, rusty, suffering double vision is Wards best win and old past best Calzaghe at the end of his career having his last fight at the weight beat prime Kessler. So prime Calzaghe would own the division easily.
Clear Calzaghe dominance all over again

 

Who was there in America at SMW when Calzaghe was champ?
Brewer? Calzaghe beat him
Mitchell? Calzaghe beat him
Manfredo? Calzaghe beat him
Sheika? Calzaghe beat him

and later
Lacy? Calzaghe beat him

There was more going on in Europe
Eubank
Woodhall
Veit
Reid

and later Kessler

Sadly Ottke didnt happen

 

I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings....

 

if this is class, then i'm clearly the teacher, you the student.

my name is Ass a sin. so the joke is on you.

signature wins for Joe are Eubank, Hopkins, Lacy, Kessler. along side a pile of others in his long reign of domination.

Eubank was a tough fighter who was still very good. Calzaghe had never been anywhere near that level but beat Eubank like no one had. great win.

Lacy was the next big thing in boxing that was going to destroy the past best fighter in Calzaghe. these were the words of most Americans. not Joe's fault that he ruined him. total domination from the first round until the last. great win.

Kessler was a very good fighter who had the basics down to a tee. Calzaghe won 9 rounds to 3. another great win.

Hopkins was the champ at Light Heavy and P4P number 3. an ATG fighter who was also a long reigning champ. whereas the best around were getting dominated by Hopkins with ease, Calzaghe came along and took his sweets. his tactics didn't work this time because Joe had him gasping for air and crying like a woman to try and get points taken off. he did this because he knew he was losing. it wasn't the greatest fight to watch, but Joe went and got the win like a true champ. it was a great win.

Joe was past his best for 3 of those wins. just goes to show how good he was.

tell me about the great signature wins of Robinson? :think

Marquez is the most overrated fighter of the last 30 years. if it wasn't for Pac, he'd just be another fighter with a few good wins and nothing else.

signature wins for Hagler? what, against fighters who were way past their best and much smaller than he was? he lost to one and nearly lost to the other. not great is it? the other signature win was against Hearns who had a glass chin and was much smaller as well. at least Joe fought fighters his own size all the time.

do i need a break? no, you can carry on. i'm keeping up just about. (sarcasm is a *****) :smoke

it doesn't count if it's a loss when talking about their signature fights. if that was the case, then a load of bums would be considered great. so that's silly talk yet again from you. but that's what i expect. :yep

anyone who thinks that Chris John and Joe Calzaghe should be considered on the same level, shouldn't be on a boxing forum claiming to know what they're talking about. (Hint) that's you Amigo. and no, John's win over Marquez doesn't come close to Joe's win over Hopkins. Joe cleaned out his division, John has never once come close to doing that.

it was down to HBO making the fight with Manfredo, not Joe and his team. they didn't want it, but HBO demanded it. Steiglitz was the number 1 contender for the IBF but wouldn't screen it because they didn't know who he was. the idiots. so Joe had to drop the title and fight Manfredo.

Joe had a genuine fear of flying. but he was willing to fly if it made sense. of course, if their was another way to travel he would have. instead of flying when he fought in Europe, he took the train. meaning his journey took him hours to get there.
Joe made more money fighting in the UK because that was where everything was happening in the division. just like today.

Dawson is a joke. **** him.

Joe won't be be held in high regard by the Yanks because he's British. you are bitter, biased, arrogant little ****ers who claim all their fighters are always better because you are insecure. that's why Americans are the worlds biggest idiots. you're delusional like crazy as well. :deal

so pretty much, you talked nothing other than a load of crap once again? bit of a waste of time don't you think?

talking of time, your schooling is now over. class is dismissed. :smoke

 

I'm going to have to look this Ward guy up.

Andre Ward?

 

That would be impossible, as I have no feelings. Try again.