Would Wilder still be the dominant unbeaten monster knocking everyone out? Would he be champion? Would he reach top 10? Who would he win or lose to?
in my opinion ali beats wilder foreman beats wilder liston wilder i do not know wilder starches floyd patterson (maybe) wilder beats fraizer (maybe) norton stops wilder
OK.. Wilder v Frazier. Frazier by 11 round ko, may have to climb off the ground to do so. Foreman. Wilder and Foreman go head to head early and George Destroys him in 4. Norton. Ken gets tagged early and stopped in 3. Lyle. Mini war, Ive got Wilder losing in 5 after dropping him several times. Jimmy Young. Wilder wins a fight on points that no one thinks he deserves. Floyd Patterson. Floyd gets caught and stopped in 2. Jerry Quarry. Jerry does well for half the fight then suffers a sudden ko. Earnie Shavers. Wilder has to pick himself up from a blasting right hand in round 1, but stops him in 7.
If he has this shitty of a resume fighting in this terribly weak era.... contender/journyman status...
The "politically correct" and sound good thing to say: Wilder would not even be in the top 5000 if he fought in that era. However, in the real world with his power, length, speed, overall athleticism and grit he would be extremely competitive in any era.
Keep in mind Wilder would be huge in Ali's era. He'd be a really tall and rangey guy in that era. I think he'd have a reach advantage over every one of the fighters listed. I might be wrong about that but the fighters of that era were generally smaller. I think Wilder's height, reach and power would make him tough to deal with in any era. He might not win against all those guys but he'd pose a threat to all of them.
Which era? 60s or 70s? I'll do both... 60s, Liston vs... 64 Liston loses to Wilder by KO, but late 50s Liston sparks him out. Wilder's too quick for him imo. Wilder KO Patterson vs... Patterson doesn't have the chin go deal with Wilder, but he definitely has the style. 50/50, does Patterson catch Wilder, hurt him and look for finish him or does Wilder hit him and KO him. I'm going with the later. Wilder KO Chuvalo vs... Not a major Ali opponent, but I do think that this is a major fight to mention as I favour Chuvalo. How does Wilder cope when he can't KO his opponent? How does he deal with the power and body shots going 15 rounds? Simple answer. He doesn't. Terrel vs... Terrel is far too stationary to beat Wilder. And Terrel would **** Wilder off, meaning he'd be aggressive and take Ernie's head. Ali vs... Ali toys with and destroys Wilder. Not competitive in the slightest, Ali just beats the **** outta him. 70s now Frazier vs... FOTC makes Wilder look foolish and beats his body bad over 15, he'd have to leap to get that chin tho, I still see a Frazier win tho. I like Frazier to stop him in 10. Norton vs... Wilder is all wrong for Norton. He throws his huge right at Norton from a distance, whilst he's coming forward and bang! Norton sleeps. Wilder KO Foreman vs... Foreman ragdolls Wilder and smashes him for a long, hard painful round. Wilder would look like a battered string bean after. Jimmy Young, Mac Foster, Ron Lyle, Ernie Shavers and Quarry All are near 50-50s imo, with Wilder being favoured over all but Young. 80s Holmes vs...